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Bus company Cost Comments
TravelPackUSA $525/day for 15ppl
  • Unsure if required to keep them to drive around Toronto, awaiting reply
Sunshine Boston $4300
  • 43-seater is all they have
R.C. Herrmann (need quote)
  • 36-seat passenger coach, looks pretty darn nice
  • Spot says "hell no," with justification
Cavalier Coach (quote requested)
  • Sent quote request 2009-09-14
  • Very nice exec. coach w/AC, might be expensive
Yankee Line (quote requested)
  • Sent quote request 2009-09-14
  • Can't tell about AC
Nevarez $4875 + driver hotel + gratuity
  • Unsure about AC power, or if service runs to Toronto
US Coachways $5100
  • No AC power
Local Motion of Boston ~$2700
  • Might have AC power (at least one vehicle being upgraded, hopefully done by Dec 09)


  • FULL DETAILS AT FUDCon:Toronto 2009#Bus Travel
  • Bus departs the Boston/Westford area on Friday morning, December 4
  • Potential route:
    • Pickup in Boston, @ Alewife station ~9:00am
    • Pickup in Westford, @ Red Hat ~10:00am
    • Onward to Toronto, arrive ~10:30pm?
  • Bus will not be available throughout weekend.
  • Bus departs Toronto on Tuesday morning, December 8.
  • Bus arrives in Boston/Westford Tuesday night.

Other concerns

  • From Chris Tyler: it's worth asking for a bus with AC power at the seats -- makes laptop users happier.
    • Chris, where did you book your bus? Finding AC power on tour buses is proving very difficult.
      • Several of the Canadian carriers had AC-enabled buses. We used Great Canadian.
  • From Paul Frields: If we pack at least 12-15 people on the bus, we do better than breaking even.

People riding the bus

Not a Red Hat-only bus!
You're welcome whether you're a Red Hat employee or not.
Passports required
In order to make sure we'll be all set at the border crossing, passports will be required to board the bus. The bus monitors will check for passports when you board.

No. Person Pickup Location Notes
1 Tim Burke Westford
2 Máirín Duffy Westford or Boston would work for me
3 Dan Walsh Westford
4 Jesse Keating Westford or Boston
5 Tom "spot" Callaway Westford or Boston
6 Christopher Aillon Boston
7 Mel Chua Westford or Boston bus monitor #1, looking for a second. Also, I'M ON A BUS
8 Jon Masters Boston or Westford tentative
9 Martin Duffy (if not RH-ers allowed) Boston or Westford tentative
10 Peter Jones Boston or Westford
11 Jon Stanley Boston or Westford (depending) Need crash space Thurs night (coming from NYC via bus)
12 Luke Macken Boston or Westford
13 Dave Malcolm Boston or Westford
14 Ian Weller Boston bus monitor the second
15 Chris Lumens Westford
16 Denise Dumas Westford
17 Jon McCann Boston
18 Remy DeCausemaker Boston or Westford
19 Adam Jackson Boston or Westford
20 Toshio Kuratomi Westford or Boston Flying in from Sacramento. I'll tag along w/ spot.
21 Sebastian Dziallas return only, to Boston Flying into YYZ, but out from BOS.
22 Howard Johnson Westford or Boston Looking for crash space in Boston, flying in from the UK
23 Andy Lindeberg Boston or Westford
24 Stephen Smoogen Boston or Westford Flying into Boston. Can get motel room near Alewife if possible. Bringing D&D for bustrip. Bus Monitor #3.
25 Adam Miller Boston or Westford Needs crash space
26 Bill Peck Westford
27 Jarod Wilson Westford
28 John (J5) Palmieri Boston
29 Cole Robinson Westford
30 Bernie Innocenti Boston
31 Sarah Lumens Westford or Boston
No. Person Pickup Location Notes


Seneca@York - 70 The Pond Rd, Toronto, Ontario

Saturday/Sunday - SEQ building

  • S1206: 160-seat stepped theatre
  • S1208: 128-seat stepped theatre
  • S1209 and S2168: Two large glassed-in rooms (roughly 60-seat capacity depending on layout)
  • Four additional classrooms with flexible layout, 35+ seats each

Each room has at least:

  • video projector with 15-pin sub-D (VGA) input
  • dual-boot podium PC (SUSE/Windows)

Stepped theatres also have document cameras.

Monday - TEL Building

  • T1009: VR room - flexible config, 30-60 people (Barco floor-to-ceiling HD video projector)
  • T1012: 12-seat conference room (no projector, can get a portable one)
  • T1030: 8-seat "Fishbowl" conference room (projector with VGA input)
  • T1014: Large classroom with round tables and chairs (projector with VGA input)
  • T1042: 6-seat meeting room (no projector, can get a portable one)
  • S1208: Upper-K, 60+ seat glassed-in room (projector with VGA input, dual-boot podium computer) (SEQ building)


Hilton Garden Inn (HGI) Toronto/Vaughan - $105/night double occupancy, free King suite for hospitality (e.g., Hack Room)

  • Located at Hwy 7 & Interchange Way - 10 minutes by car or Viva rapid transit.
  • Internet access: wired and wireless, password-free.
  • 3 years old.
  • Food options nearby, restaurant in hotel, room service available.
  • Free parking (including the bus).
  • Pool, fitness room.

Room sharing

  • Bill (note: leaving monday night) + Smooge -- F-Eng (4 nights, ~$400)
  • Toshio + Mike -- F-Eng (4 nights, ~$400)
  • Spot + DGilmore -- F-Eng 50% (only paying Spot's part, 4 nights, ~$200)
  • Luke + Remy -- F-Eng 50% (only paying Luke's part, 4 nights, ~$200)
  • PRobinson + SDziallas -- Comm-Arch 50% (only paying SDziallas' part, 3 nights, ~$150)
  • MDaniels + JStanley -- Comm-Arch (4 nights, ~$400)
  • BBoeckel + Rob Escriva -- Comm-Arch 50% (only paying Ben's part, 4 nights, ~$200)
  • RDieter + ASeigo -- Comm-Arch (3 nights, ~$300) (booked for 4 nights)
  • BDesmet + IWeller -- Comm-Arch 50% (only paying Ian's part, 3 nights, ~$150)
  • Bernie + SBirtwistle -- Comm-Arch (4 nights, ~$400)
  • MChua + DMartin -- Comm-Arch (4 nights, ~$400)
  • Xavier + Yaakov -- Comm-Arch (4 nights, ~$400)
  • JRose + AMiller -- Comm-Arch (4 nights, ~$400)
  • BAshton + Jaroslav -- F-Eng (4 nights, ~$400)
  • SParrish + J5 -- F-Eng (4 nights, ~$400)
  • CSavage + DNalley -- Comm-Arch (4 nights max, ~$400)

Total F-Eng cost looks to be $2000, total Comm-Arch cost looks to be $3200.

The following pairs are expected, but it looks like they are being paid by other budgets or not at all.

  • CEbbert + DJones -- (NOT COMING?)
  • Mairin Duffy + Martin Duffy -- other budget (bstevens 50%?)
  • JMcCann + AJackson -- other budget (Desktop)

Ground Transportation

  • Seneca@York buildings are 8-10 minutes from hotel by Viva (2 stops). Rates are $3.25 cash or $26/10 tickets.
  • Parking at York is abundant but expensive ($14/day). Parking at hotel is free, so attendees should consider the Viva option.


Possible locations:


Here's a map of all the nearby facilities.



RH will buy food. What food are we getting?


Attendees pay for food, but as the cafeteria is closed we will be getting catered pizza (approx. $4/person) and asking people to chip in.


On your own. There is a cafeteria at Seneca, and food places nearby.