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=== Looking Forward to Fedora 12 Themes ===
=== A New Design for the Fedora Frontpage ===


On behalf of the Board and as part of the process to select a code name for Fedora 12<ref>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_12</ref> [[User:pfrields|Paul Frields]] asked for input<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000065.html</ref> on @design-team: "As you're probably aware we are working early on the F12 naming process, to provide the Fedora Design team plenty of time for theming the next release, as requested". He is trying to find out if the candidates on the the list going from Board to Legal have the potential for a visual theme: "I would like the Design team to look at these names and give me some indication of their themeability". Various members of the team outlined directions which can be followed for any of the candidates, with the general opinion being favourable<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000067.html</ref>: "after a quick read of the list, I don't see anything as unthemeable as "sulphur", so any of the choices are acceptable IMO".
[[User:duffy|Máirín Duffy]] posted<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000141.html</ref> on @design-team a mockup idea for a fedoraproject.org front page redesign "I don't know if it's a good idea or feasible to redo our look & feel yet again. I do think our current site is a bit too sparse though." [[User:ricky|Ricky Zhou (周家杰)]] appreciated<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000143.html</ref> it for styling "I like the large tabs and your colors[]... From a CSS point of view, this layout would probably be a lot simpler than what we have now, which is great" with some concerns about some elements "Another thing that I'm a bit worried about is that the placement of the
banner might look a bit strange right next to the large banner on the left side". [[User:wonderer|Henrik Heigl]] also apreciated it<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000146.html</ref> "Wow, its cool" but haslo had some concerns "Also I personaly dislike 2 things on such a design[...] that first the navigation is on the right side and not on the left side as most  people would expect it[...] and second this textbased-sidemap-thingy at the bottom". On the contrary, the position of the navigation block was one of [[User:nicubunu|Nicu Buculei]]'s favorite parts<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000169.html</ref> "I *love* you moved the navigation bar on the right", who pleaded for simplicity, easy readability and not-fixed (liquid) layouts.


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=== Graphics for FUDCon - LATAM ===
=== About Branding ===


[[User:jaymeayres|Jayme Ayres]] reported<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000119.html</ref> and asked for feedback on @design-team about a number of graphics he made for the upcoming FUDCon LATAM<ref>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDConLATAM2009</ref> in Porto Alegre, Brazil: "Here are the designs that we use in Fudcon LATAM at FISL 10 (Porto Alegre-RS - Brasil). The posters will still be chosen, only the poster of FUDCon is approved."
A heated debate was fired after [[User:ujjwol|Ujjwol Lamichhane]] forwarded<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000165.html</ref> to @design-team a controversial article about KDE and distribution branding in artwork<ref>http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/06/building-brand-together.html</ref> from the prominent KDE developer Aaron Seigo. It was seen as not useful<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000175.html</ref> by [[User:kkofler|Kevin Kofler]]  "don't think this offer is of much value to Fedora at this point because we don't have our logo in the wallpaper anyway" and [[User:jreznik|Jaroslav Reznik]] "Short conclusion: we have to lost our Fedora identity...", two of the top Fedora KDE contributors.


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[[User:mccann|William Jon McCann]] was more radical<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000178.html</ref> "Eventually, the Fedora board will realize that today's conception of spins is a failed experiment and force this change" and suggested Fedora KDE  contributors should go the Kubuntu way "If I were working on a KDE desktop that is based on Fedora packages the first thing I would do is make sure I differentiate it from Fedora since Fedora is a GNOME based project - and that is not going to change[...] his is not a new idea - Kubuntu has been doing this for years now". He was countered<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000181.html</ref> by [[User:kanarip|Jeroen van Meeuwen]] "GNOME is not upstream for Fedora in it's entirety. Without GNOME, there would still be a viable Fedora Project. Where did you get the impression Fedora is a GNOME based project?" who defended the spins concept "Today's conception of spins is not a failed experiment although maybe in your opinion it doesn't meet your personal needs and/or expectations" and outlined the Fedora KDE spin as a positive example "I think the KDE spin in this regard has been one of the most outstanding examples of building a show-case spin exactly doing what is the purpose of spins to begin with."
 
=== Media Art Adjustments ===
 
At the last minute [[User:mspevack|Max Spevack]] reported<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000102.html</ref> a number of issues encountered by the media production company with the Fedora 11 media art: "The artwork is too big", "All files related to the CD/DVD case contain transparencies and this could bring some problems by printing out the files", "there's a no-embedded font", "In the labels is indicated a missing font". The problems were solved<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000117.html</ref> quickly by [[User:duffy|Máirín Duffy]] with an update<ref>http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release%20Themes/F11/sleeves%20try%202/</ref> of the files.


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Revision as of 15:22, 12 June 2009

Artwork

In this section, we cover the Fedora Design Team[1].

Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei

A New Design for the Fedora Frontpage

Máirín Duffy posted[1] on @design-team a mockup idea for a fedoraproject.org front page redesign "I don't know if it's a good idea or feasible to redo our look & feel yet again. I do think our current site is a bit too sparse though." Ricky Zhou (周家杰) appreciated[2] it for styling "I like the large tabs and your colors[]... From a CSS point of view, this layout would probably be a lot simpler than what we have now, which is great" with some concerns about some elements "Another thing that I'm a bit worried about is that the placement of the banner might look a bit strange right next to the large banner on the left side". Henrik Heigl also apreciated it[3] "Wow, its cool" but haslo had some concerns "Also I personaly dislike 2 things on such a design[...] that first the navigation is on the right side and not on the left side as most people would expect it[...] and second this textbased-sidemap-thingy at the bottom". On the contrary, the position of the navigation block was one of Nicu Buculei's favorite parts[4] "I *love* you moved the navigation bar on the right", who pleaded for simplicity, easy readability and not-fixed (liquid) layouts.

About Branding

A heated debate was fired after Ujjwol Lamichhane forwarded[1] to @design-team a controversial article about KDE and distribution branding in artwork[2] from the prominent KDE developer Aaron Seigo. It was seen as not useful[3] by Kevin Kofler "don't think this offer is of much value to Fedora at this point because we don't have our logo in the wallpaper anyway" and Jaroslav Reznik "Short conclusion: we have to lost our Fedora identity...", two of the top Fedora KDE contributors.

William Jon McCann was more radical[4] "Eventually, the Fedora board will realize that today's conception of spins is a failed experiment and force this change" and suggested Fedora KDE contributors should go the Kubuntu way "If I were working on a KDE desktop that is based on Fedora packages the first thing I would do is make sure I differentiate it from Fedora since Fedora is a GNOME based project - and that is not going to change[...] his is not a new idea - Kubuntu has been doing this for years now". He was countered[5] by Jeroen van Meeuwen "GNOME is not upstream for Fedora in it's entirety. Without GNOME, there would still be a viable Fedora Project. Where did you get the impression Fedora is a GNOME based project?" who defended the spins concept "Today's conception of spins is not a failed experiment although maybe in your opinion it doesn't meet your personal needs and/or expectations" and outlined the Fedora KDE spin as a positive example "I think the KDE spin in this regard has been one of the most outstanding examples of building a show-case spin exactly doing what is the purpose of spins to begin with."