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<h1>FDSCo-irclog-20080521</h1>
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<tr id="t12:02"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40"><meeting></td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:02" class="time">12:02</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:02"><td class="other" colspan="2">-!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: FDSCo hangin' out -- roll call and opening number</td><td><a href="#t12:02" class="time">12:02</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:03"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">KarstenWade, estoy aqui</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:03" class="time">12:03</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:03"><td class="action" colspan="2">* stickster present and accounted for</td><td><a href="#t12:03" class="time">12:03</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:03"><td class="action" colspan="2">* couf </td><td><a href="#t12:03" class="time">12:03</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:03"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">JaredSmith... estoy aqui tambien</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:03" class="time">12:03</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:03"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">(Well, for various definitions of "here")</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:03" class="time">12:03</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:04"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok, I have weird networking stuff but this ssh seems ok, so ...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:04" class="time">12:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:05"><td class="action" colspan="2">* jsmith twiddles the bits on quaid's router</td><td><a href="#t12:05" class="time">12:05</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:05"><td class="other" colspan="2">-!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: FDSCo talking -- Elections</td><td><a href="#t12:05" class="time">12:05</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:05"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">Ah, elections.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:05" class="time">12:05</a></td></tr>
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<tr id="t12:06"><td class="action" colspan="2">* stickster hopes quaid didn't disappera</td><td><a href="#t12:06" class="time">12:06</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:06"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">no, I'm here</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:06" class="time">12:06</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:06"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">From the Spanish for "disappear."  (apologies.0</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:06" class="time">12:06</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:06"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">I want to troubleshoot but then I'd drop</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:06" class="time">12:06</a></td></tr>
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<tr id="t12:08"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok, anyway</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:08" class="time">12:08</a></td></tr>
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<tr id="t12:08"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">I'm beginning to feel like we have too many elections around here :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:08" class="time">12:08</a></td></tr>
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<tr id="t12:08"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">I second that</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:08" class="time">12:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:08"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">and I'm a bit unclear if we have achieved the steps to setup a new Chair around here.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:08" class="time">12:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:09"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">so I'm open for discussion on the topic in that vein and others</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:09" class="time">12:09</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:10"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">unfortunately the new-to-be chair isn't around :-/</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:10" class="time">12:10</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:10"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">Yeah, it's difficult to have this conversation without him</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:10" class="time">12:10</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:11"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:11" class="time">12:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:11"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">Has anyone thought about Docs in light of Jef Spaleta's role-based SIG idea, and whether we might actually enjoy *better* success -- and a better ruler against which to measure ourselves -- as a SIG?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:11" class="time">12:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:11"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">That could be total crazy talk.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:11" class="time">12:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:11"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">stickster: um, see ...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:11" class="time">12:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:11"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">that is crazy talk</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:11" class="time">12:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:11"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">OK</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:11" class="time">12:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:12"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">Docs is a clear example of a subproject</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:12" class="time">12:12</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:12"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">in the role-based SIG world</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:12" class="time">12:12</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:12"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">there would be a Documentor in each SIG focused on that SIG content</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:12" class="time">12:12</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:12"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">and that person is *also* a memmber of the Docs Project (Subproj)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:12" class="time">12:12</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:12"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">make sense?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:12" class="time">12:12</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:13"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">or should be</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:13" class="time">12:13</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:13"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">that said, we were discussing governance here a few hours ago, and Jeff didn't even know that we require elections for Projects</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:13" class="time">12:13</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:13"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">Southern_Gentlem: refer to "in the role-based SIG world"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:13" class="time">12:13</a></td></tr>
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<tr id="t12:14"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">so basiclly we would be a resource subproject working for the SIGs?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:14" class="time">12:14</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">that's basically it</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:15" class="time">12:15</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">Well, I think what quaid is saying is that we'd "embed" with them</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:15" class="time">12:15</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">Is that a good characterization of it?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:15" class="time">12:15</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">sure</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:15" class="time">12:15</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:15"><td class="action" colspan="2">* couf tries to get the whole role-based SIG concept here</td><td><a href="#t12:15" class="time">12:15</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">right, gotcha</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:15" class="time">12:15</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">the idea is to get people working on what interests them</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:15" class="time">12:15</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:16"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">and filling roles there more than "packaging"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:16" class="time">12:16</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:17"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:17" class="time">12:17</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:17"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">so, elections and governance ...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:17" class="time">12:17</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:17"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">on-list?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:17" class="time">12:17</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:17"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">move to, that is</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:17" class="time">12:17</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:18"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:18" class="time">12:18</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:18"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">maybe, but we *should* get a clear POV from John, personal mail could help</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:18" class="time">12:18</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:18"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">just to make sure we don't keep pushing this back</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:18" class="time">12:18</a></td></tr>
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<tr id="t12:22"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">what can be done to lower the barriers for people to get involved in the docs project</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:22" class="time">12:22</a></td></tr>
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<tr id="t12:22"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">JohnBabich late</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:22" class="time">12:22</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:23"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> Southern_Gentlem</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">some people see it a litte extreme to have to get on cvs just to get a tutorial on how to do docs</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:23" class="time">12:23</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:23"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">Southern_Gentlem: You missed last week's meeting :-)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:23" class="time">12:23</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:23"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">jmbuser! hi!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:23" class="time">12:23</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:24"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">hey jmbuser </td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:24" class="time">12:24</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:24"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">quaid: hey</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:24" class="time">12:24</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:24"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">we're discussing governance</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:24" class="time">12:24</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:24"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">stickster: hi</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:24" class="time">12:24</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:24"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">carry on...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:24" class="time">12:24</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:24"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">Southern_Gentlem: <a href="http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-May/msg00032.html">http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-May/msg00032.html</a></td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:24" class="time">12:24</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:24"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">do we need elections, etc.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:24" class="time">12:24</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:25"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">this often, etc.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:25" class="time">12:25</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:25"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">I still think it might be an on list discussion</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:25" class="time">12:25</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:25"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">to have.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:25" class="time">12:25</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:27"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">Me sees that 20 minutes have gone by one topic, and not much said about it. Sounds like a clear "silence gives consent" for the ML.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:27" class="time">12:27</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:27"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">right on</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:27" class="time">12:27</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:27"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:27" class="time">12:27</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:27"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">elections discussion on list etc.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:27" class="time">12:27</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:27"><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b"> lfoppiano</th><td class="text" style="color: #4b904b">Hi all, sry fro delay....</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:27" class="time">12:27</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:27"><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b"> lfoppiano</th><td class="text" style="color: #4b904b">*for</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:27" class="time">12:27</a></td></tr>
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<tr id="t12:29"><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b"> lfoppiano</th><td class="text" style="color: #4b904b">uhm...I lost elections... .-/</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:29" class="time">12:29</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:29"><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b"> lfoppiano</th><td class="text" style="color: #4b904b">:s/lost/miss/g</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:29" class="time">12:29</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:29"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">lfoppiano: we're moving the topic to the mailing list</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:29" class="time">12:29</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:29"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok, wsa there something to sayabout the relnotes?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:29" class="time">12:29</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:30"><td class="action" colspan="2">* quaid hsa to be excused for typos, bad connetion, no tim e to edit</td><td><a href="#t12:30" class="time">12:30</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:30"><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b"> lfoppiano</th><td class="text" style="color: #4b904b">no</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:30" class="time">12:30</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:30"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">mdious has been keeping up with these, and we should have a new package rolled later in the week</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:30" class="time">12:30</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:30"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">mdious has been syncing in the last bits</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:30" class="time">12:30</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:30"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> stickster</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">Or maybe weekend</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:30" class="time">12:30</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:31"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok, UG and other end-user content is second priority after Fedora contributor-oriented content</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:31" class="time">12:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:31"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">I created <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Tasks/SIGSupport">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Tasks/SIGSupport</a> </td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:31" class="time">12:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:31"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">just so we can track who is "embedded" where</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:31" class="time">12:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:32"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">note that Docs is supporting any contributor area, SIG and subproject alike; just put it all on that one page for now.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:32" class="time">12:32</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:33"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">do we want to formalize a process for these guys, and join-pages updates etc</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:33" class="time">12:33</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:33"><td class="action" colspan="2">* stickster has to make a call, will continue lurking here</td><td><a href="#t12:33" class="time">12:33</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:34"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">couf: we could; we also need to talk to the various grops and see what they want to do</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:34" class="time">12:34</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:34"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">can someone add JohnStanley to that page as writing for BugTriage?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:34" class="time">12:34</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:35"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">sure</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:35" class="time">12:35</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:36"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">that is if the wiki wants to let me</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:36" class="time">12:36</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:36"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">it'll be better than what I have right now</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:36" class="time">12:36</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:36"><td class="action" colspan="2">* couf can't wait next weeks move</td><td><a href="#t12:36" class="time">12:36</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:36"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">so, update on that</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:36" class="time">12:36</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:37"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">we are doing a premigration on the 23rd</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:37" class="time">12:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:37"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">(barring problems)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:37" class="time">12:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:37"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">then doing a re-import of what has changed from 23 to 27 on the 27th</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:37" class="time">12:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:37"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">that way we have some days to get things nicer before the actual migration is called</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:37" class="time">12:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:37"><td class="other" colspan="2">-!- knurd is now known as knurd_afk</td><td><a href="#t12:37" class="time">12:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:37"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">the old wiki will be up for some time in read-only, hidden from search engines mode</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:37" class="time">12:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:39"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">wow, fast save for slow wiki</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:39" class="time">12:39</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:39"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok, so then the next thing is ...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:39" class="time">12:39</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:39"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">we need to tell folks that Docs is here to help them solve their internal docs problems</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:39" class="time">12:39</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:39"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">maybe just make the GIG a first output along those lines</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:39" class="time">12:39</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:40"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">so, let's add to that SIGSupport page a link to the section in the GIG that corresponds, so we can have the same people own that content creation</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:40" class="time">12:40</a></td></tr>
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<tr id="t12:42"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:42" class="time">12:42</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:43"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:43" class="time">12:43</a></td></tr>
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<tr id="t12:44"><td class="action" colspan="2">* jmbuser makes slowest response in Fedora meeting history</td><td><a href="#t12:44" class="time">12:44</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:44"><td class="action" colspan="2">* quaid is still waiting for his last typing to appear on the screen</td><td><a href="#t12:44" class="time">12:44</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:44"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">oh, wait, it did</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:44" class="time">12:44</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:45"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok, then ...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:45" class="time">12:45</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:45"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">so shall we first get some basic "this is how you join Fedora"-instructions into the GIG, then spread the new mantra/offering to the world, and move on?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:45" class="time">12:45</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:45"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">couf: well, those are already there; GIG can have that, but should focus more on the SIGs/Subprojects</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:45" class="time">12:45</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:45"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">oh</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:45" class="time">12:45</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:45"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">you mean</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:45" class="time">12:45</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:45"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">write that in first, stub out the pages, then announce, "come and fill and get some help with your contrib docs"?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:45" class="time">12:45</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:46"><td class="action" colspan="2">* quaid sniffs a possible plan</td><td><a href="#t12:46" class="time">12:46</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:46"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">yeah</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:46" class="time">12:46</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:46"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:46" class="time">12:46</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:46"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">cool</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:46" class="time">12:46</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:47"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">anyone feel they have the time to focus on the GIG to make that happen in a short timeframe?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:47" class="time">12:47</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:47"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">I could have a stab at it</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:47" class="time">12:47</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:48"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">coo' couf</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:48" class="time">12:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:48"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">Action: couf stab at GIG basic intro/join Fedora</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:48" class="time">12:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:48"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">check</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:48" class="time">12:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:48"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">Action: then we send out announcements about the change in Docs focus/role</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:48" class="time">12:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:48"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">Action: meanwhile, feel free to blog about it at some point :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:48" class="time">12:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:49"><td class="action" colspan="2">* jmbuser needs to start blogging again</td><td><a href="#t12:49" class="time">12:49</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:49"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">word</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:49" class="time">12:49</a></td></tr>
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<tr id="t12:49"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">get addicted!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:49" class="time">12:49</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:49"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok, anything more on this topic?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:49" class="time">12:49</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:49"><td class="action" colspan="2">* quaid adds some more actionnotes</td><td><a href="#t12:49" class="time">12:49</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:49"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">Action: election and governance to the list</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:49" class="time">12:49</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:50"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">any other ones I missed?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:50" class="time">12:50</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:50"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">not that I know off</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:50" class="time">12:50</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:50"><td class="other" colspan="2">-!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: FDSCo chats -- All Other Bidness</td><td><a href="#t12:50" class="time">12:50</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:51"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ten minutes to go and the flo' is open</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:51" class="time">12:51</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:51"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">time frame on cvs kill?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:51" class="time">12:51</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:52"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">hmm</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:52" class="time">12:52</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:53"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">reality? F10 or later because of content actively in there, right?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:53" class="time">12:53</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:53"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">we are maintaining docs back to F8</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:53" class="time">12:53</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:53"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">so we might need it opened until F9 EOLs</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:53" class="time">12:53</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:53"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">that said!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:53" class="time">12:53</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:53"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">ah right gpl and all that</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:53" class="time">12:53</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:54"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">we can move on from here, migrate guides for new work in to fedorahosted.org</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:54" class="time">12:54</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:54"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">couf: also, it works to build from there for those versions, why risk a move?  it will be for maintainers only at that point anyway</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:54" class="time">12:54</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:54"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">that's my off-the-cuff assessment</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:54" class="time">12:54</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:55"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">sure :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:55" class="time">12:55</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:55"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">I'd say, any guides we want to publish for F9+ should get a stand alone fedorahosted.org project, SCM of choice, and rock on</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:55" class="time">12:55</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:56"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">not sure if we have to update any part of bugzilla there or not</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:56" class="time">12:56</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:56"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">and toolchain needs to get in there too</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:56" class="time">12:56</a></td></tr>
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<tr id="t12:58"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">so I might try that after the GIG stuff</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:58" class="time">12:58</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:58"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">aye, that's true</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:58" class="time">12:58</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:58"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">as part of my will to work on the toolchain</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:58" class="time">12:58</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:58"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok, that's about it</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:58" class="time">12:58</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:58"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">anything else for today?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:58" class="time">12:58</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:59"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">I'ma closin'</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:59" class="time">12:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:59"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:59" class="time">12:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:59"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">30</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:59" class="time">12:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:59"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">~~ time warp ~~</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:59" class="time">12:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:59"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">5</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:59" class="time">12:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:59"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">4</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:59" class="time">12:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:59"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">3</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:59" class="time">12:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:59"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">2</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:59" class="time">12:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:59"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:59" class="time">12:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t12:59"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40"></meeting></td><td class="time"><a href="#t12:59" class="time">12:59</a></td></tr>
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