[14:50] KDE SIG meeting in 10 minutes... [14:51] * jima flees [15:08] kde meeting started? [15:09] not yet, it seems. rdieter? [15:10] Sorry (darn work got it the way), here now. [15:10] let's get started. [15:10] who's here (other than me, svahl)? [15:10] * XulChris is here [15:11] no than (again :( ), I need to poke him... [15:12] need to get than to port bug #213369 to fc6 [15:12] yeah... can do. [15:13] topic 1: merge [15:14] good news, work is underway, and koji deployment + repo merge is progressing. [15:14] looks like (at least) another week(ish). [15:15] should help take the load/bottleneck off of than. [15:16] topic 2: livecd progress [15:16] great. is the package split the next step then? [15:16] svahl: package splits can happen now (but only than can do it). [15:16] ah. ok [15:17] svahl: any news on the livecd front? [15:17] afk 2 min... (sorry) [15:17] not really. was busy over the weekend so that I could not do very much. [15:18] i have created a new package (not reviewed yet) which i think should go into the livecd, its a new spam filter for kmail called spambayes [15:18] but dropping the dependency from pirut helps exclude most of the gnome stuff [15:18] works much better than spamassassin IMO [15:18] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=234717 [15:18] and kmail has built in support for it [15:19] XulChris: sure, we can consider it once it's reviewed. [15:19] when review is done but in on the wishlist: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureFedoraKDE/KDELiveCD [15:19] k [15:19] s/but/put [15:19] topic 3: package reviews :) [15:19] speaking of packages in need of review... [15:20] other candidates? (I'll throw out a few in a sec)... [15:20] PyQt4: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/190189 [15:21] guidance: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/233603 [15:21] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue81#head-cd30a712626833160920a20a9f9433d99dcb2af1 [15:22] mentioned "new plug-ins for Kipi and digikam also have pending review requests." any idea what they're talking about? [15:22] I'm maintainer of kipi-plugins and co-maintainer of digikam, and this was news to me. ??? [15:23] no idea [15:24] ok, that's what I thought. :) [15:24] shouldnt pyqt4 and guidance be added to the kde sig page review request section? [15:24] prolly. [15:25] ok, moving on... [15:25] topic 4: wiki cleanup/organization [15:26] simply put, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureFedoraKDE can use some love [15:26] now that we're pretty much focusing soley on a livecd, we could merge things a bit too. [15:27] yes [15:28] I'll work on this over the next couple of days. [15:28] organizational suggestions welcome... of course. [15:28] otherwise, I'll just give it a best-guess. [15:29] I'd like to see if we could get our current/active livecd config(s) into cvs/git somewhere. [15:29] it is in git since yesterday [15:29] ok, mark that one as done then. :) [15:29] my git access is still not working atm. Must speak to jeremy directly [15:30] now I suppose I have to learn git. [15:30] me too [15:30] I'll do that first, before mucking with comps-fe7.xml again. :) [15:30] ;) [15:31] svahl: where is it hosted exactly? [15:31] http://git.fedoraproject.org/?p=hosted/livecd;a=blob;f=config/livecd-fedora-kde.ks;h=0c6ce0c35a4b49beb126e0e4896c70e1ca308e8d;hb=HEAD [15:32] is that part of the hosted livecd stuff? [15:33] the livecd-tools.rpm? not sure [15:33] the kickstart config is the one from test3 [15:33] I mean, https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/ [15:33] but I don't see livecd there. [15:33] how does one get/request access to git? (or should I just ask jeremy)? [15:34] http://git.fedoraproject.org/?p=hosted/livecd;a=blob;f=HACKING;h=4fd3528842d5562ddd35624a91982655dd0fda06;hb=HEAD [15:34] git clone git://git.fedoraproject.org/git/hosted/livecd [15:35] I'll ask on the livecd list regarding write access... [15:36] well, I think most of my trim-the-fat page items have been addressed: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RexDieter/F7t3-kde-trim-the-fat [15:36] yes, see http://deadbabylon.de/files/kde-livecd-packagelist.txt [15:36] svahl: were there issues wrt install-to-hard drive? [15:36] the other gnome stuff is related to pirut and @admin-tools [15:37] yes, sadly: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=234728 [15:37] I have seen this on my local machine before but wasn't sure if it is not related only to my creation process [15:38] now I have the confirmation (and no idea where to search first) [15:38] woohoo, linus using our livecd, rock. [15:38] :) [15:39] I friend of mine tried using it too, but he only got a blinking cursor (no grub menu, nothin) [15:39] this one seems to be related to selinux. I can workaround the bug from the livecd: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureFedoraKDE/KDELiveCD/Test3 [15:39] oh [15:39] that never happened here [15:39] I think it was that he tried installing/using grub on disk2 near the end (of a very large disk) [15:40] i was going to help him try again, this time putting /boot on disk1 near the beginning. [15:40] well, let's not dwell on that. [15:41] I think that's all I had, any other topics? [15:41] problems here are normally related to anaconda, I think [15:41] sounds like it, yeah. [15:41] most of those issues are common to all (kde/gnome) livecd's. [15:42] yes? [15:42] except the "no /init" thing [15:42] :( [15:42] I'll try it out again tonight. [15:42] ok [15:43] oh, I almos forgot: topic 5(?): docs, release notes [15:43] * stickster pokes head in as his notify goes off [15:43] another point to livecds: I would suggest to do a weekly spin for testing in kde sig (packagelist eg) [15:43] svahl: +1 [15:43] wrt: release notes and docs (ding!), we need some, badly. :) [15:44] I could do the spinning but I don't know where to host it (my personal web space is too limited) [15:44] * stickster raises hand [15:44] go ahead, we're all friends here. [15:44] rdieter, yes. there was announced a deadline this days [15:44] The release notes are frozen right now, more or less, and going to the L10N team for translation for test4. [15:44] svahl: I know. :( [15:44] i mean the release notes [15:44] ok [15:45] stickster: that's right (sorry, I knew that). Well, we'll manage. [15:45] I could try to write some release notes for the livecd. but someone must re-read it [15:45] There is one more shot for the final release, but we can't overload the L10N team... if you can come up with something concise, we may be able to smooth the road [15:45] the mostly empty kde section(s) should be easier to translate. :) [15:46] svahl: i can check grammer for you [15:46] heh [15:46] XulChris, thanks [15:46] ? [15:46] XulChris: Can you check speling too? :-D [15:46] stickster: we'll come up with something (simple), thanks. [15:46] stickster: well machines are better spellers than I am ;-) [15:46] * stickster ducks out [15:47] other topics? [15:47] excuse me please, is anybody of you (Live-CD Guys) also at the LINUXTAG in Berlin end of may? We need someone for a talk with the title "How to build your own Live-CD with F7" [15:49] I will be there, maybe (not sure atm). But I don't think that I am the right one for this (just creating a kickstart and do no coding) [15:49] not I, but we should have clear documentation on how to do exactly that (if not already, but then) [15:49] GeroldKa: maybe ping the fedora-livecd ml? [15:50] ok, I'll try thanks a lot and sorry again for diturbing the meeting [15:50] np [15:50] np [15:51] ok, todo items: [15:51] 1. cleanup FeatureFedoraKDE wiki (rdieter) [15:52] 2. continue work on livecd (rdieter,svahl), mostly related to pkg lists, comps-fe7 [15:52] 3. package reviews (everyone) [15:53] 4. implement package splits and other features. (than) [15:53] am I missing anything? [15:53] 5. release notes [15:53] ah, yes (duh), svahl, and you volunteered, yes? [15:54] for livecd, yes [15:54] but I'm not so familiar with the other points [15:54] I'll try to keep list of action items/todos on the wiki too, along with assignments so folks know better what's going on and being worked on. [15:54] ok [15:55] and areas that need help. [15:55] alright, good meeting folks.