[21:07] dgilmore: hi, sorry I'm late (too much Hero's to watch on the tivo tonight). (: [21:07] rdieter: whats up? [21:08] dilgmore: had a chat with max... (: [21:08] rdieter: cool what did he have to say? [21:09] dilgmore: we're all good regardless, but we'll have a better idea after tomorrows meeting with than/florian. [21:10] I don't really have much of an agenda kde-sig'wise, other than... [21:10] rdieter: ok, are they going to show? [21:11] to report that chitlesh has been a busy bee. [21:11] dude where's my #fedora-extras? [21:11] heh yeah i noticed [21:11] dgilmore: they said they would... [21:11] Seg: we closed it [21:11] rdieter: yeah ill be surprised if they do [21:12] This is going to weird me out. One less channel to obssesively check/ignore. [21:12] rdieter: Heros was good tonight ;) [21:13] dgilmore: don't tell me, I'm still catching up from the last 3 episodes. [21:13] * rdieter covers ears, la la la, not listening. [21:13] rdieter: :) heh it was intresting is all ill say [21:13] yeah, stuff is starting to happen [21:13] :) [21:14] and y'know when that one guy... did that one thing... that was awesome :)!!! [21:14] rdieter: actually, it was a rerun and they're just messing with you [21:14] or maybe i'm just messing with you....... [21:14] I hate you guys. [21:15] i hardly recognized bill fagerbakke [21:15] don't make me go back watching... [21:15] :-P [21:15] dgilmore: do you have any kde-pkgs pending review yet? [21:16] rdieter: no i need to sit down and work on the reviews for the core kde packages though [21:16] me too... [21:17] dilgmore: you ok with adding kde*-devel to the spin? [21:17] nice that f13 added globbing, now I can abbreviate a lot of things. (: [21:19] rdieter: sure [21:19] i would want it [21:21] dgilmore: rdieter suggested that i come to tomorrow's irc meeting, and then take it from there [21:21] dgilmore: i chatted with him after you and i chatted this morning [21:21] mspevack: ok that works. [21:21] * mspevack was reading through the logs [21:21] i have reservations about them working with the community. i really hope im wrong [21:23] I'm sure we can come to some understanding on how best to work together. [21:23] i really hope to be proven wrong [21:24] According to this thread: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=117127490328554&w=2 there will be a KDE 3.80.3 soon. (It's supposedly been rolled already, unless something went wrong, but not announced yet.) This reminds me that I should finally get my KDE 4 packages finished. I'm horrible at getting things done, apparently. [21:25] Kevin_Kofler: Yes, I saw that too. Thanks again for the work you've done so far. [21:25] KDE4 still doesnt have a time line AFAIK [21:25] dgilmore: they have one, just nothing publishable/official. [21:25] (: [21:26] F8 territory probably. [21:26] No, it doesn't, and no, I don't think anybody is even considering shipping KDE 4 as the default any time soon, but developers need something to code against, or we will have no apps when the release will be out. ;-) [21:26] rdieter: well nothing we could say F8 will have KDE4 [21:26] right now maybe [21:26] Kevin hit the nail on the head, exactly. [21:27] * dgilmore wants to test it out [21:27] * mspevack is off to go write his red hat magazine article. catch you all tomorrow morning [21:27] seeya mspevack [21:27] Kevin_Kofler: did you look at chitlesh's work? [21:27] I'm not sure KDE 4 will even make the cut for F8, unless you want to ship an alpha or beta. [21:27] dgilmore: that stuff you asked for is in the mail [21:27] mspevack_out: cheers [21:28] the check? (: [21:28] rdieter: i wish it was [21:28] a pay check [21:28] I've seen Chitlesh's kdelibs4 which didn't build, I didn't have the time to look into the problem. [21:29] And I probably don't have his latest kdepimlibs4 and kdebase4 specs, I'll have to ask him when he's awake. [21:29] either way, I'd *love* to have more time to play with 3.80.3, but don't, and won't for awhile. ): [21:30] I think we could all use a time machine. [21:31] Kevin_Kofler: do you have what you have done somewhere? [21:31] I *think* it was on sf.net/projects/kde-redhat/ somewhere, yes? [21:32] dgilmore: do you have an sf.net account? [21:32] rdieter: yeah i do [21:32] bulla46 i think it is [21:32] username? I'll add you as kde-redhat dev, so you can taste the secret sauce, err, see the hidden release. (: [21:33] let me double check that is what it is [21:34] http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/kde-redhat/kdelibs4-3.80.2-0.1.20061003svn.fc5.kde.src.rpm [21:34] http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/kde-redhat/kdepimlibs4-3.80.2-0.1.20061003svn.fc5.kde.src.rpm [21:34] http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/kde-redhat/kdebase4-3.80.2-0.1.20061003svn.fc5.kde.src.rpm [21:34] ok, maybe not so hidden. (: [21:35] Even hidden releases are still up on the SF mirrors. [21:35] These at least built at one time, outside of mock at least (I didn't test this in a mock install, as I wanted to update it to a more recent version, but didn't get around). [21:37] Chitlesh did some changes to these, but last thing I new, his latest packages didn't build, maybe because something's wrong in the snapshot he used, I didn't have the time to investigate. [21:37] I'll have to ask him for the updated specfiles in any case. [21:38] hopefully, they've sorted out more/most/all of the dual-install issues. [21:38] That would be helpful, updating my global search&replace patch frightens me. [21:39] But I'm not positive. [21:39] rdieter: my username is bulla46 [21:39] i cant remeber my password [21:40] and cant remember what email adress i had registered [21:40] oops, well, I added bulla46. (: [21:41] provided you find your password, you should be able to do most anything on the kde-redhat project site. [21:42] :) cool [21:42] well, that's about all I had for tonight, any other topics before I go back to Hero'ing? [21:42] i used to be a dev on spca50x [21:42] im good :D [21:43] Kevin_Kolfer: ? [21:43] Keven_Kofler that is... [21:43] "save the kde4, save the world" :) [21:44] nah, I've used: "save the kernel maintainer, save to world". That's universal. [21:44] s/to/the/ of couse. [21:44] Nothing I can think of now, so feel free to go back to your Tivo. :-) [21:44] :) [21:44] jcollie: I like that. [21:45] ok, later then.