Mär 10 17:04:04 rdieter KDE SIG Meeting start, who's present today? Mär 10 17:04:17 * rdieter hat das Thema geändert zu: KDE SIG Meeting -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-03-10 -- Init Mär 10 17:05:03 * jreznik is here Mär 10 17:05:14 * jamundso present Mär 10 17:05:32 svahl present Mär 10 17:07:02 than present Mär 10 17:07:23 rdieter well, we don't have much of an agenda today, so this may well be short. Mär 10 17:07:38 rdieter so item 1: agenda, stuff to discuss Mär 10 17:07:43 * rdieter hat das Thema geändert zu: KDE SIG Meeting -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-03-10 -- Agenda Mär 10 17:08:03 rdieter I guess a brief, fyi, kde-4.2.1 was pushed to updates-testing yesterday Mär 10 17:08:25 jreznik status beta freeze Mär 10 17:09:15 rdieter ok, beta freeze Mär 10 17:09:19 * rdieter hat das Thema geändert zu: KDE SIG Meeting -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-03-10 -- beta freeze Mär 10 17:10:29 rdieter any important fixes we should be conerned about getting into the beta? Mär 10 17:10:44 jreznik what's the status of f11 blockers? Mär 10 17:11:34 than rdieter, do we have the url for f11 blockers? Mär 10 17:13:12 rdieter hrm, I assumed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?=F11Blocker would work, but I guess not Mär 10 17:15:03 than hm, just got blank page Mär 10 17:15:04 rdieter oh, I think F11Blocker is a keyword, not a tracking bug ? Mär 10 17:15:05 svahl https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446452 Mär 10 17:15:07 buggbot Bug 446452: low, low, ---, notting, ASSIGNED, Fedora 11 Blocker Mär 10 17:16:02 rdieter yay, thx Mär 10 17:16:18 jreznik do we have some blockers? Mär 10 17:16:42 rdieter svahl: do you have any sneak-peak iso's for us to test? (no need to publicize this now) Mär 10 17:17:17 svahl no. But I could upload some tonight if there is need to Mär 10 17:17:18 rdieter jreznik: nothing kde-related so far that I'm aware of... but we should probably create some. For example: artwork, theming Mär 10 17:17:52 rdieter svahl: I'd like that, so we can at least do some sanity testing before we release for real. Mär 10 17:17:53 jreznik artwork depends on artwork team and they have nothing for now... Mär 10 17:18:09 rdieter jreznik: leonidas-backgrounds passed review yesterday Mär 10 17:18:30 svahl rdieter, ok. I think i686 should be enough? Mär 10 17:18:31 jreznik rdieter: yes, but it's still more mockup... Mär 10 17:18:42 rdieter svahl:yes, that's fine Mär 10 17:19:00 jreznik I have to check plymouth, to have same splash Mär 10 17:19:02 rdieter jreznik: oh... I had assumed it was close to the final product by now. bleh Mär 10 17:19:39 jreznik it's only to have something in beta at all Mär 10 17:20:55 jreznik I have some ideas for plymouth/splash/kdm, I'll write to artwork list... but from wallpaper it's really too difficult to do something... Mär 10 17:21:09 jreznik so yes, artwork/theming is still missing Mär 10 17:21:18 ltinkl they should have a beta release Mar 24 (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork) Mär 10 17:22:08 rdieter ok, jreznik thanks for continuing to follow that. keep us informed how things are going, and when/where you may need help Mär 10 17:25:19 jreznik ok Mär 10 17:25:30 than jreznik, i tried to boot usb kde live image on my laptop with 512M, it took only 4 minutes! Mär 10 17:25:32 rdieter oh, than, still awaiting a progress report regarding faster boot, kde startup :) Mär 10 17:26:06 jreznik than: interesting Mär 10 17:26:07 rdieter than: that matched my experience using kdm as well Mär 10 17:26:34 than i don't know how it takes to long on your laptop Mär 10 17:26:38 jreznik I have screwdriver here, I'll test it Mär 10 17:26:53 rdieter I'd venture using cd media would be a bit slower Mär 10 17:27:26 jreznik it was unusable from usb... oh no, I don't have my bag with screewdriver... I'll take it home Mär 10 17:29:38 rdieter anything else for today? Mär 10 17:30:45 ltinkl just a quick note: KDE 4.2.1 has been pushed into updates-testing Mär 10 17:32:07 rdieter it's bit, so not surprising to be taking a bit to filter to mirrors Mär 10 17:32:11 rdieter it's big... that is Mär 10 17:32:51 svahl and also a short summary from yesterdays irc regarding the kde live images: Kevin_Kofler added a "Provides: dbus-bluez-pin-helper" to kdebluetooth. So from now on gnome-bluetooth won't be pulled onto the images which saves ~10 megs of space Mär 10 17:33:39 svahl So this one will be the packagelist for F11beta: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SebastianVahl/CurrentPackageList Mär 10 17:34:04 svahl amarok is still on the images and the x86_64 is also under 700 megs Mär 10 17:34:15 ltinkl nice work Mär 10 17:34:21 rdieter add kdebluetooth as default to kde-desktop in comps ? Mär 10 17:34:38 rdieter I noticed it seems to be not in comps-f11 at all. Mär 10 17:34:40 * jamundso floats back to blocker query - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=Fedora&product=Fedora&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=MODIFIED&bug_status=ON_DEV&bug_status=ON_QA&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=FAILS_QA&bug_status=RELEASE_PENDING&bug_status=POST&field0-0-0=blocked&type0-0-0=anywordssubstr&value0-0-0=446452 Mär 10 17:35:31 svahl rdieter, in my tests yesterday bluez pulled in kdebluetooth. But I don't know what will happen when the gnome-bluetooth maintainers change sth Mär 10 17:35:32 rdieter I'm going to add it, since bluez is default in "base" Mär 10 17:36:57 svahl ok Mär 10 17:37:47 rdieter one thing folks have asked about too, is to add some more screensavers to the default kde install. Mär 10 17:38:16 rdieter any objections to adding kdeartwork-extras as default in comps too? (we still likely want to *not* include that in live images) Mär 10 17:39:34 rdieter interestingly, we also have no kdeedu bits in kde-desktop either. Mär 10 17:40:03 rdieter tell ya what, I'll analyze this further, and come back with some recommendations post-beta. Mär 10 17:40:07 svahl none objections here. But please ping me when you did the change so I can also add the removal to the kickstart Mär 10 17:40:24 than rdieter, it's fine with me Mär 10 17:40:25 rdieter svahl: will do Mär 10 17:40:54 svahl jreznik, on the kde mailing list you also suggested splitting kdeartwork into some more subpackages that could be added to the live images. Mär 10 17:41:25 jreznik svahl: yes and I think it could help a lot Mär 10 17:41:51 svahl Have you done any work there? I could also have a look for post-beta Mär 10 17:41:58 svahl or help Mär 10 17:43:58 jreznik if we want it I can prepare it for post beta Mär 10 17:45:16 svahl +1 here Mär 10 17:45:17 rdieter alright, let's wrap up for today, and take further discussion to #fedora-kde Mär 10 17:45:37 rdieter KDE SIG Meeting End, thanks all. 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