[Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:04:17] Topic Kevin_Kofler sets the channel topic to "KDE SIG Meeting - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-04-21 - Init". [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:04:26] KDE SIG meeting starting - who's present? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:04:36] Quit comphappy has left this server ("Quit"). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:04:42] Join tatica_ has joined this channel (n=tatica@190.79.3.11). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:04:47] present [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:04:59] present [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:05:22] * jreznik is present [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:05:28] Quit tatica has left this server (Nick collision from services.). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:05:29] Nick tatica_ is now known as tatica. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:06:19] Join ltinkl has joined this channel (n=ltinkl@194.212.22.14). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:07:21] Join drago01 has joined this channel (n=linux@chello062178124130.3.13.univie.teleweb.at). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:07:48] Topic Kevin_Kofler sets the channel topic to "KDE SIG Meeting - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-04-21 - Agenda". [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:08:00] Join nucleo has joined this channel (n=nucleo@80.73.6.155). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:08:10] So, what is there to discuss today? I added the obvious ones: F11 status, KDE 4.2.2 F9/F10 update status. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:08:12] Anything else? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:08:25] * SMParrish here [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:08:54] * rdieter is 1/2 here [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:09:00] f11 artwork status is under f11 status? :D [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:09:28] Let's add it as a separate item. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:12:12] Topic Kevin_Kofler sets the channel topic to "KDE SIG Meeting - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-04-21 - F11 artwork status". [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:12:16] First topic: F11 artwork status [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:12:26] jreznik? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:12:46] ok - I've just commited new version [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:12:59] We fixed kde-settings so it no longer requires solar-kde-theme. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:13:04] It's all leonidas-kde-theme now. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:13:16] it uses leonidas-backgrounds-kdm PNG for KDM/KSplash [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:13:26] We'll need the new version tagged for dist-f11 ASAP. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:13:26] JPGs for wallpaper theme [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:13:59] Another thing: Solar had a custom default face icon, should leonidas-kde-theme also provide one? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:14:04] so KDM/KSplash has only one aspect ratio but with this wp it's ok [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:14:10] If you add one, it needs a small change in kdebase-workspace. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:14:56] Kevin_Kofler: I know... maybe that lion head? for sexists lion female head? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:15:12] now it's should match leonidas-backgrounds [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:15:26] we'll see what they invent later... [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:15:55] tomorrow I'd like to redesign it little - only new gfx, not whole KDM style... [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:17:19] leonidas-background have landscape version, should I add it as subpackage too? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:17:22] Is a tag request filed already for today's version? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:17:32] it's building right now [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:17:43] Landscape as in multiple screens? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:17:52] We don't want those in KDE. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:18:04] Plasma shows one copy of the wallpaper per screen if there are multiple monitors. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:18:14] that old windows xp like wallpaper [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:19:02] Oh. Well, what I mainly care about is having a working default wallpaper. :-) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:19:14] and they are going prepare dual head with lion head on second screen - maybe we can use it for second lion theme - not dual, but lion on the first screen (not default one) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:19:22] If you want to provide the alternatives in a KDE-friendly format too, you can. (There's also the version with the lion.) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:19:28] it's working as it is really easy wallpaper... [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:19:42] We just don't want the non-default wallpapers installed by default. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:19:48] We don't have much room on the live image. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:20:06] not for live of course [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:21:08] Have we checked (and preferably tested) kde-settings yet, to see whether it correctly references the Leonidas artwork everywhere now? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:21:22] I have [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:21:31] the login screen is the leonidas one [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:21:39] the wallpaper is looking good here [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:21:41] but more eyes the better [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:21:51] *login animation [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:22:19] I think that's all for the artwork, can we move on? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:22:24] the KDM theme preview for leonidas is the same as the solar one [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:22:36] MathStuf: fixed in todays version [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:22:39] k [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:22:45] I have to ask for tag [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:22:51] Topic Kevin_Kofler sets the channel topic to "KDE SIG Meeting - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-04-21 - F11 status". [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:22:56] Next topic: F11 status [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:23:01] ops, it build failed :( [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:23:01] (for the non-artwork stuff) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:24:02] A few packages got tagged today: new kde-settings as already mentioned (fixes solar-kde-theme getting dragged in), new kdeadmin to fix system-config-printer-kde, new kdelibs to fix Plasma bugs. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:24:30] Join inode0 has joined this channel (n=inode0@fedora/inode0). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:24:53] kdelibs has 2 fixes: PopupApplet fixes so the weather plasmoid doesn't get confused by the PopupApplet storing its internal settings where the weather applet expects to find its city, and Kickoff showing up in front of the screensaver. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:25:12] Part mcepl has left this channel ("Bye bye!"). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:25:30] I also requested tagging for a kdebindings build which enables the C# stuff on ppc64. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:25:33] Join petreu| has joined this channel (n=peter@p3EE3EFC4.dip.t-dialin.net). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:25:37] Mono is available on ppc64 from F11 on. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:25:49] nice (even I don't use mono at all) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:26:31] Quit MathStuf has left this server (Remote closed the connection). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:26:33] If we have other stuff which needs fixing, we should fix it ASAP. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:26:53] The preview release is going to happen really soon, and then there won't be much time until the final one. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:27:16] Join cweyl has joined this channel (n=cweyl@c-76-102-52-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:27:34] Oh, there's also the Strigi fixes. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:27:52] Or rather, the one fix. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:28:07] I've fixed the konsole flowcontrol bug, building for F11 atm [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:28:09] The strigi-libs were crashing when Dolphin passed it / or something like smb:///. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:28:33] how much time have we got left for requesting a tag? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:29:24] Join MathStuf has joined this channel (n=MathStuf@rattata-18.dynamic.rpi.edu). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:29:48] Is there already a tag request for strigi-0.6.4-4.fc11= [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:29:51] ? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:29:58] * rdieter hasn't seen one [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:30:23] jreznik: Can you please file one? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:30:42] For the schedule, it's here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:30:45] Kevin_Kofler: filling right now [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:30:54] ltinkl: probably another week (or 2), but as time gets closer, tag requests will likely receive more and more scrutiny [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:30:57] April 28 is the preview release, that's a week from now. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:31:09] Nick hanthana_ is now known as hanthana. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:31:10] After the preview release, only really critical stuff should get tagged. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:31:18] ie, blockers [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:32:02] And around May 12, they'll stop taking tag requests unless it's stuff like "Anaconda destroys all other partitions on the drive on 90% of all systems". ;-) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:32:22] (May 12 is when they start doing the composes of the release candidates.) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:32:23] :) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:32:37] Join jmbuser has joined this channel (n=jmbuser@195.229.25.134). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:33:05] Kevin_Kofler: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1575 [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:33:07] Quit dkovalsk has left this server ("leaving"). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:33:46] ok, I need this week to finish artwork and my s-c-bind bug (hopefully) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:34:18] Quit RodrigoPadula has left this server ("Saindo"). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:35:16] Anything else for F11? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:36:10] Topic Kevin_Kofler sets the channel topic to "KDE SIG Meeting - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-04-21 - KDE 4.2.2 & Qt 4.5 F9/F10 update status". [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:36:11] OK, next topic: KDE 4.2.2 & Qt 4.5 F9/F10 update status [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:36:16] it's working very nice for me... (f11) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:36:32] We queued the big update for stable now. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:36:59] Join susmit has joined this channel (n=susmit@59.93.207.182). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:37:14] Related updates which should go out at the same time have also been queued for stable (stellarium for F9 (F10 already has the required version), scidavis for F10 (new version which requires 4.5)). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:37:57] Also a yakuake fix for a crash with Qt 4.5. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:37:58] I queued for stable my packages too (kde-style-skulpture, new pkg) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:38:51] Join k0k has joined this channel (n=k0k@fedora/k0k). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:38:56] Join thomasj_ has joined this channel (n=thomasj@e180179056.adsl.alicedsl.de). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:39:06] Quit spevack has left this server ("leaving"). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:39:09] for kde-settings [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:39:13] as an aside, there were also a handful of pkgs built against qt-4.5 already pushed to stable (folks who missed our announcements not to do that) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:39:29] changing the search provides for konq to use the shorter BZ URL [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:39:48] bugzilla.redhat.com/bug-number rather than the ....cgi?id=bug-number [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:40:27] Some people just never follow procedures. :-( [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:40:42] Quit thomasj has left this server (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:43:39] Should jreznik's strigi bugfix (backport from upstream) go through testing or directly to stable? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:44:01] The patch just replaces an assert with something useful. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:44:19] anyone test it yet? (I will after meeting) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:44:21] So it should not break if the previous version didn't already crash on the same place. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:44:43] Kevin_Kofler: it could go to stable directly, now it's requested to testing... [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:44:44] I'm hesitant to skip -testing, but would feel a little better if it were tested a bit [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:45:03] I'd like to test first - I hope it's OK but... [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:45:07] Quit fraggle_laptop has left this server ("Quitte"). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:45:11] And what do we do with kdelibs-4.2.2-9? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:45:21] And kdeadmin-4.2.2-4? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:45:27] Quit openpercept has left this server ("Leaving"). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:45:31] updates-testing [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:45:33] Is the push ongoing yet? If not, can we add those to our push set? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:45:59] Quit drago01 has left this server (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:46:29] Quit sdziallas has left this server ("Ex-Chat"). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:47:13] That reminds me that I need to ping upstream about the kconf_update script. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:47:18] I really want it merged upstream. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:48:09] I'm going to talk to aseigo about it (I don't want to just commit it without asking anybody). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:48:41] Quit susmit has left this server ("Leaving"). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:48:54] Anything else about the F9/F10 updates? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:49:41] Join warren has joined this channel (n=warren@redhat/wombat/warren). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:49:58] Join sdziallas has joined this channel (n=sebastia@p57A2EBCE.dip.t-dialin.net). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:51:01] Topic Kevin_Kofler sets the channel topic to "KDE SIG Meeting - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-04-21 - Recent bugs". [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:51:06] OK, next topic: recent bugs. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:51:59] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496837 [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:52:01] Bug 496837: low, low, ---, smparrish, ASSIGNED, Rawhide: Clicking on Buttons on KDE4 notifications from KPackageKit doesn't have any effect [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:52:05] Join che has joined this channel (n=che@redhat/che). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:52:23] This one sounds like yet another Plasma notification issue. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:52:50] hmm? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:52:59] i clicked on "apply updates" from it today and it went through [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:53:13] I'm not sure why it fails for the reporter. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:53:32] works fine for me too (on my rawhide box @ home). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:53:54] Weird. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:54:12] I guess we can't do all that much about it if it's not reproducible. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:54:22] Any other bugs we should discuss? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:54:50] hmm [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:54:57] mine doesn't *look* like that [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:55:07] (the sizes aren't correctly computed in Aya i guess) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:55:18] i only see the right half of the leftmost button [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:56:06] his is broken somehow alright, there should be an "x" in the upper right of the notification too [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:56:51] hmm [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:56:53] yeah [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:56:54] i remember that [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:57:11] unfortunately rawhide updates are getting rarer, so its harder to test for them [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:57:31] at least before GA [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:57:41] Nick thomasj_ is now known as thomasj. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [18:58:25] I just tried this and it worked fine for me [Tue Apr 21 2009] [19:00:34] Topic Kevin_Kofler sets the channel topic to "KDE SIG Meeting - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-04-21 - Open discussion". [Tue Apr 21 2009] [19:00:40] So, anything else to discuss? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [19:00:56] Time's up already, so if there's nothing important, let's close the meeting. [Tue Apr 21 2009] [19:01:10] ok, thanks all ;-) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [19:01:30] Topic Kevin_Kofler sets the channel topic to "Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting_channel for meeting schedule". [Tue Apr 21 2009] [19:01:51] Part MathStuf has left this channel ("Failure: Success!"). [Tue Apr 21 2009] [19:01:53] jreznik: Can you take care of the log and the summary? [Tue Apr 21 2009] [19:02:08] Kevin_Kofler: already working on it :) [Tue Apr 21 2009] [19:02:27] OK [Tue Apr 21 2009] [19:02:30] Part Kevin_Kofler has left this channel ("Bye!").