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Roll call

  • Present: Paul Frields, Christopher Aillon, Colin Walters, Rex Dieter, Chris Tyler, Matt Domsch, Mo Duffy, Jon Stanley, Stephen Smoogen
  • Regrets: Tom 'spot' Callaway
  • Assigned meeting secretary: Christopher Aillon


Organizational matters

  • Welcome to the new Board members!
  • Brief update on meeting and issue tracking details (Paul)
  • May discuss sensitive matters. These will be noted, please keep them private.
  • Board members do not necessarily speak for their employers.
  • Trac access granted to new members, issues are potentially confidential in nature -- goal is to move as much of that material into minutes and IRC as possible.
  • Gobby used for taking meeting minutes, posted to
  • Discuss issues on advisory-board list when possible, use the private list only for confidential items

Top issues for F14 cycle

  • Get consensus on agenda for next ~6 months, focus on moving Fedora to next level
    • High impact items to benefit the project or contributors
    • Will be incredibly useful for FPL successor
  • Simply stating problems for now -- keep in mind that lots of Fedora works great -- we focus on the negative in this list as a way to embrace change and keep growing/moving forward
  • Limit to 3 minutes per person, then prioritize with remaining time
  • Christopher Aillon
    • Fedora needs a target experience, more than a target user. -- facilitate them to go from random user to someone who will file a bug (and then onward)
    • Fedora needs to be the open source development platform of choice
  • Rex Dieter
    • We need to keep the community positive
    • Rawhide needs to be more consumable (and consumed)
    • Fedora needs to be easier and more welcoming for alternative desktops
  • Matt Domsch
    • Fedora + Cloud: Fedora is great for platform as a service, and need to push Fedora as the OS of choice for cloud applications
    • We need to keep the community positive, and take decisive action in cases of extreme negativity
  • Mo Duffy
    • Confusion around target experience.
      • Spins one area of confusion: should be closer to package groups, having to pick 1 spin is too restrictive
    • Mailing lists are a time sink
    • Losing mindshare - Need more marketing, Need more FOSS developers on Fedora, 3rd party software install is painful (especially when no Fedora packages provided)
  • Smooge
    • Poisonous people make Fedora unpleasant to contribute to and are too prevalent [Noisy idiots is a better term look it up online]
    • Still too many people using EOL Fedora versions (in part due to EC2 issue)
    • We are not focusing towards eventual enterprise goals... We seem to wander from release to release without long term focus.
  • Jon Stanley
    • Poisonous people tend to dominate discussions, need to find a way to fix this
    • Update stability, need to keep an eye on this issue with FESCo
  • Chris Tyler
    • Joining Fedora is not as clear and consistent as it could be
    • Onramping: Make it easy for truly interested people to join Fedora and become effective contributors
  • Colin Walters
    • Upgrade experience: have to do better here, not just packages but distros
    • Need to minimize regressions
    • Need to raise contributor interest in the default desktop (few new app suggestions for ex)
  • Paul
    • Need to have a clear way to oppose useless trolling
  • Mo
    • Negativity is a result of no clear vision or focus, we have one vision per person
  • Paul
    • many of these problems are interlaced and need to be solved together to truly tackle the problem
    • Artificial separation between e.g. FESCo and Board -- need people to work closer together

Top 3 issues

  • Negativity
  • Fedora Experience
  • Mindshare (via cloud, etc.)

Next meeting

  • Proposed: Cancel 2010-06-25 -- Red Hat Summit
  • Next meeting: 2010-07-02 UTC 1800, public IRC meeting