| =-= ianweller has changed the topic to ``woo marketing meeting
| 22:01
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| moixs
| So, let's switch to here for the marketing meeting :)
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| ianweller
| themayor: hi
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| themayor
| hey
| 22:02
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| themayor
| were in here now?
| 22:03
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| stickster
| yup
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| themayor
| okay that works
| 22:03
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| themayor
| thanks stickster for setting it up
| 22:03
|
| * lcafiero has been here
| 22:03
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| mizmo
| hi
| 22:03
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| moixs
| Can someone else log the meeting too? I usually get disconnected at 23h (in 1h) because my room mate goes to bed and cuts the wifi ;)
| 22:03
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| moixs
| Just in case :)
| 22:04
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| ianweller
| zodbot also keeps logs
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| MostafaDaneshvar
| hey
| 22:04
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| r0xc0rp
| Hey, I'm logging this too if it helps
| 22:05
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| moixs
| fine ;)
| 22:05
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| themayor
| okay are we all here?
| 22:06
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| ianweller
| (raise your hand if you're not here)
| 22:06
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| spevack
| Max
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| themayor
| roll call please
| 22:06
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| moixs
| Steven Moix
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| r0xc0rp
| Tiago Vieira
| 22:06
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| MostafaDaneshvar
| Mostafa Daneshvar
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| themayor
| okay so i assume thats that
| 22:07
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| * stickster .
| 22:07
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| themayor
| let me pull up the schedule
| 22:08
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| ianweller
| and mizmo is here too
| 22:08
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| mizmo
| yo
| 22:08
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| themayor
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule
| 22:08
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| themayor
| im gonna give a brief go about my stuff and then follow up with people on theirs
| 22:09
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| themayor
| the talking points are done
| 22:09
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| themayor
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points
| 22:09
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| themayor
| stickster: you looked over these, anyone have any feedback?
| 22:10
|
| * moixs is looking at them right now
| 22:10
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| stickster
| themayor: Did you fix the points I discussed with you Friday night?
| 22:11
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| moixs
| The separation between different types of users is fine
| 22:11
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| themayor
| stickster: yeah some of them i think, is there anything i missed?
| 22:11
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| * ianweller has read them and likes them
| 22:12
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| themayor
| anyone else?
| 22:13
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| spevack
| how much has actually changed since the Alpha version of them?
| 22:13
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| themayor
| or are people reading
| 22:13
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| * spevack consults the page history
| 22:13
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| themayor
| spevack: bits and pieces, i also added some stuff that i spoke to sticster about
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| 22:14
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| spevack
| stickster: do you want to follow up with jack post-meeting about any additional comments, so we can lock this page down for beta?
| 22:15
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| stickster
| spevack: Yeah, that sounds fine
| 22:15
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| stickster
| I don't want to block the rest of the agenda
| 22:15
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| stickster
| There's much to do!
| 22:15
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| stickster
| Jack, let's get together later on
| 22:15
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| themayor
| okay
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| themayor
| okay ian, any updates on the banners and stuff?
| 22:17
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| themayor
| wanna tell everyone whats going on with them
| 22:17
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| ianweller
| for the pbook?
| 22:17
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| ianweller
| or something else
| 22:17
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| ianweller
| i'll assume picture book since that's the only thing i actually own on that page
| 22:18
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| themayor
| yeah
| 22:18
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| themayor
| the banner
| 22:18
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| ianweller
| banner has been imported into fedora-web.git and it's on the fp.o chrome
| 22:18
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| ianweller
| it has about a 1/3 probability of showing up
| 22:18
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| stickster
| ianweller: I saw that change go into git, awesome
| 22:18
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| ianweller
| the other 2/3rds is f10 and f11 alpha. so we'll leave those ;)
| 22:18
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| themayor
| havent seen one yet
| 22:18
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| ianweller
| s/is/are/
| 22:18
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| stickster
| ianweller: Yeah, *somebody* will want that stuff too, maybe
| 22:19
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| themayor
| oooh i just saw
| 22:19
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| ianweller
| themayor: :D
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| 22:19
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| ianweller
| and picture book submissinos are now open.
| 22:19
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| ianweller
| i haven't checked the pictures category yet
| 22:19
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| themayor
| the three folders or envelope or whatever
| 22:19
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| ianweller
| but mdomsch has asked us to take a look at a couple of photos
| 22:19
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| ianweller
| they're on the talk page of that submitting page
| 22:19
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| themayor
| awesome
| 22:20
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| themayor
| so we are well on our way
| 22:20
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| ianweller
| yup
| 22:20
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| themayor
| please who ever hasnt blogged about it yet, please do so
| 22:20
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| ianweller
| yeah
| 22:20
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| ianweller
| flood the planet
| 22:20
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| themayor
| i will do one tonight
| 22:21
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| ianweller
| i'll also be lurking the upload log
| 22:21
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| ianweller
| see if any get in without adding the right categories
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| themayor
| awesome
| 22:22
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| themayor
| let jus know
| 22:22
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| ianweller
| now we await as many pictures as possible
| 22:22
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| ianweller
| brno will bring quite a few in
| 22:23
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| ianweller
| also, we changed the submission policy slightly
| 22:23
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| themayor
| okay so we have on the schedule update the user testimonials
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| * ianweller will wait until pbook comes up again ;)
| 22:23
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| themayor
| ianweller: ssorry go ahead, its good that it should be in the log
| 22:23
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| ianweller
| oh. ok
| 22:23
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| ianweller
| nicu and i were discussing the submission policy
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| ianweller
| ther'es now a route for uploading an image if you don't have a release form, and if we would really like to use the photo, we'll ask the photographer to get one
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| moixs
| (please refresh the schedule page, I made some changes)
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| ianweller
| this would be used for photos taken before the release forms existed
| 22:24
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| ianweller
| so that the photographer wouldn't have to get a form signed unless we were fairly certain that the photo was going in the book.
| 22:24
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| ianweller
| that's all i changed since spevack's changes shortly after the meeting last week
| 22:25
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| themayor
| okay great
| 22:25
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| ianweller
| we could still use mockups
| 22:25
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| ianweller
| :)
| 22:25
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| * ianweller hands the floor back to themayor
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| 22:26
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| * herlo is here
| 22:26
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| themayor
| okay so one of the tasks is to update the usertestimonials
| 22:26
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| spevack
| more specifically
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| spevack
| to give the page a fresh outlook
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| spevack
| and either try to make it something current and maintainable
| 22:26
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| spevack
| or to retire it completely and Archive: it
| 22:27
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| spevack
| this came up last week
| 22:27
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| spevack
| but there is no owner
| 22:27
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| moixs
| As I said last week...too much work for too little right now. We are already lagging behind in this cycle and I don't see it as time well invested.
| 22:27
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| themayor
| yeah
| 22:27
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| moixs
| other opinions are welcome, but pick it up then :p
| 22:27
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| themayor
| i was wondering if anyone was interested
| 22:28
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| * spevack agrees that it is a lower priority, but wonders why we haven't tried to get someone to pick it up on the mailing list
| 22:28
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| themayor
| but if not we will move on
| 22:28
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| spevack
| an email with a vision for what we want the page to be, asking for volunteers
| 22:28
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| moixs
| I have a suggestion about this
| 22:28
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| spevack
| go ahead
| 22:28
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| moixs
| As I quickly told you last week, we are going to work on Fedora's positioning and marketing at school (confirmed today)
| 22:29
|
| * spevack remembers
| 22:29
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| moixs
| I can pick up this task there, and discuss what the purpose of this page should be
| 22:29
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| moixs
| come up with ideas etc
| 22:30
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| moixs
| This can already help to clarify what it should be, before searching an owner
| 22:30
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| themayor
| moixs: do you want to do that one the list and see if anyone wants to help you with it
| 22:30
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| moixs
| themayor: at the moment, I'd like to keep it silent, for the next 3 weeks or so.
| 22:31
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| themayor
| okay so shall we move it down on the schedule
| 22:32
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| moixs
| themayor: but I can temporary take ownership of it
| 22:32
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| themayor
| okay so i am moving it into the next step
| 22:32
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| themayor
| err, nect phase
| 22:32
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| themayor
| and putting your name on it
| 22:32
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| moixs
| done
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| themayor
| okay great
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| moixs
| themayor: I added a last point to the beta phase
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| themayor
| okay great
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| =-= che__ is now known as che
| 22:33
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| themayor
| next topic
| 22:33
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| themayor
| the in depth feature focus
| 22:33
|
| * spevack perks up
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| spevack
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features
| 22:34
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| themayor
| yes
| 22:34
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| spevack
| sorry to interrupt, carry on :)
| 22:34
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| themayor
| thanks max for putting them up
| 22:34
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| themayor
| stickster has already started work on one of them
| 22:35
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| themayor
| i should have a decent version of the kernel mode setting stuff tomorrow aftrenoon
| 22:35
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| stickster
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_in_Fedora_11
| 22:35
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| themayor
| i was hoping to have it to day but kristian was too busy
| 22:35
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| * stickster put his interview on the wiki and hughsie will finish it when he's got time
| 22:35
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| themayor
| okay so there are a few that are not picked up yet
| 22:36
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| themayor
| volume control
| 22:36
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| themayor
| and virt improved console
| 22:37
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| themayor
| we should really be on top of these
| 22:37
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| stickster
| themayor: I think what's needed is email to the list to explain to people what exactly we want them to do to pick up a featue.
| 22:37
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| stickster
| *feature
| 22:37
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| spevack
| was there any discussion of these on the list between last week and tonight?
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| themayor
| aside from the brief thing on friday based on what i sent out in the weekend thing no
| 22:38
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| themayor
| you want me to send out something?
| 22:38
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| * spevack thought we talked about that on thursday
| 22:38
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| spevack
| so... yeah
| 22:38
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| themayor
| no we said i was going to work on mine
| 22:39
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| themayor
| we didnt say send something to the list
| 22:39
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| themayor
| at least not that i recall
| 22:39
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| themayor
| sorry if im mistaken
| 22:39
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| spevack
| well, let's get some list discussion
| 22:39
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| themayor
| okay ill send that out after the meeting then
| 22:39
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| spevack
| themayor: i think the idea was to get started on yours, and use that as a template to generate some discussion on the list and hopefully get other people to see "oh, I can do one too!"
| 22:39
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| spevack
| kind of like what stickster did
| 22:39
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| themayor
| yeah i asked kristian for some time
| 22:40
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| stickster
| I'm not saying my page is perfect, but if you think mine works OK, it's up for using as a template.
| 22:40
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| stickster
| In fact, if anyone has some ideas for how to improve mine, I would love to do so
| 22:40
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| themayor
| its good its a start
| 22:40
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| spevack
| ok, so we need an email to the list that shows the main f11 in-depth feature page, stickster's example page showing a work in progress that has just started, and asking for volunteers for the others
| 22:40
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| themayor
| sure
| 22:41
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| themayor
| and i will post my page tomorrow right after the readiness meeting
| 22:41
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| moixs
| Be sure to explain the difference between the talking points and the in-depth pages in the e-mail. It's not obvious right now.
| 22:41
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| spevack
| brilliant
| 22:41
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| spevack
| moixs: that is true, as evidenced by the thread last week on the list, i think Rahul started it, and stickster and i chimed in
| 22:42
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| themayor
| moixs: absolutely, weve spoke about it before but i will do so again
| 22:42
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| moixs
| Are we done with the short-term task list?
| 22:43
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| themayor
| one last quick thing
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| * herlo suggests we put these pages into a category so we can all pick and choose from them in one central place
| 22:44
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| themayor
| tomorrow, we are having the beta readiness meeting
| 22:44
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| themayor
| herlo: the in depth features?
| 22:44
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| herlo
| yes
| 22:44
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| herlo
| themayor: it's simple, a category will help those who want to take one but don't know what's there to take.
| 22:44
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| stickster
| herlo: That's funny, I was thinking the same thing
| 22:44
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| herlo
| like me
| 22:44
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| herlo
| :)
| 22:45
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| themayor
| stickster: are you game for doing that or do you need some help?
| 22:45
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| stickster
| herlo: Maybe I can move that page properly. Let me try.
| 22:45
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| herlo
| well, it just needs a [Category:F11 In Depth Feature]] (or similar) tag at the bottom
| 22:45
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| themayor
| yeah
| 22:45
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| themayor
| and then each page needs one as is created
| 22:45
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| herlo
| then everyone can go to /wiki/Category:F11_In_Depth_Feature and see the list
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| herlo
| themayor: yes, and if you make dummy pages with nothing on them, it's easy to find and create content for those who want to help
| 22:46
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| themayor
| yup
| 22:47
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| * herlo missed most of last week's meeting, but wants to help. Where's the list of features to work through?
| 22:47
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| themayor
| herlo: whats left is volume control
| 22:48
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| themayor
| and virt improved console
| 22:48
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| herlo
| oh
| 22:48
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| herlo
| is there a list?
| 22:48
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| themayor
| yes
| 22:48
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| spevack
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features
| 22:48
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| herlo
| I can go through and update the pages iwth the category on them really quick
| 22:48
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| themayor
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features
| 22:48
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| themayor
| thanks spevack
| 22:48
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| stickster
| herlo: OK,done
| 22:48
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| stickster
| https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Category:F11_in-depth_features
| 22:49
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| herlo
| stickster: sweet!
| 22:49
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| * herlo also wants to point out that it seems like double effort to create a page with that info and have a category page, since category pages can have content too
| 22:50
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| herlo
| I wonder if anyone would be opposed to moving the content from the F11_in-depth_features page to the F11_in-depth_features category page?
| 22:50
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| spevack
| whatever works
| 22:50
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| herlo
| well, it's already done this time, so I don't want to step on anyone's toes
| 22:50
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| stickster
| herlo: Already eon
| 22:50
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| stickster
| *done
| 22:51
|
| * herlo double looks
| 22:51
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| herlo
| so it is
| 22:51
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| * herlo missed that point before, even though he looked at it
| 22:51
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| herlo
| okay, ignore me, I'll go and make those pages show up on the category page...
| 22:51
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| themayor
| okay
| 22:52
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| themayor
| so next
| 22:52
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| themayor
| the beta readiness meeting is tomorrow
| 22:52
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| themayor
| does anyone want me to bring up anything
| 22:53
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| moixs
| not really on my side
| 22:53
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| themayor
| this is going to be an opportunity to talk with art and docs also about anything we need to coordinate
| 22:54
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| themayor
| thats really what i hope to get out of it
| 22:54
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| stickster
| themayor: Exactly, it's not just "are we ready," but "are we missing anything that we need from some other team, or are they missing something from us"
| 22:54
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| themayor
| yup
| 22:54
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| =-= mizmo is now known as mizmo-out
| 22:55
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| stickster
| OK, sounds like that's a big silence == "no"
| 22:56
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| themayor
| yeah
| 22:57
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| themayor
| alright
| 22:57
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| themayor
| so other than that, lets talk about the picture book real quick, although we really got everything in
| 22:57
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| ianweller
| PICTURE!
| 22:57
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| stickster
| BOOK!
| 22:57
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| ianweller
| ,,,
| 22:58
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| ianweller
| oh ok you got it
| 22:58
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| ianweller
| umm i think i talked everything i needed to earlier in the meeting. any questions?
| 22:58
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| themayor
| we also have things for next week, we should make sure people have their names by them
| 22:59
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| stickster
| What's up for next week?
| 22:59
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| moixs
| On the task list you mean? We are pretty much set.
| 23:00
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| * stickster looks at schedule
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| moixs
| On a quick note, I asked people who subscribed to the news dis. network to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications
| 23:00
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| moixs
| i have to kick the germans, hindis and spanish. I'll do it tomorrow
| 23:00
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| moixs
| For the other languages, the list is pretty good
| 23:01
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| moixs
| eof
| 23:01
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| themayor
| brief famsco on stuff
| 23:01
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| themayor
| who here goes to the famsco meetings?
| 23:01
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| stickster
| I think spevack is usually at them
| 23:01
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| themayor
| max can you pick that up then?
| 23:02
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| themayor
| i think he left
| 23:03
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| themayor
| anyway
| 23:04
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| themayor
| we are over time already
| 23:04
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| moixs
| ok, let's call it a day then :)
| 23:04
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| themayor
| lets call it a day, we have stuff to do for next week
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