| themayor
| hey anyone here for marketing meeting?
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| moixs
| bouh
| 22:02
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| * lcafiero is here for marketing meeting
| 22:02
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| themayor
| im here
| 22:02
|
| * spevack is here, but in a bit more quiet role than the last few eeks
| 22:02
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| yanstadel
| im also there
| 22:02
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| spevack
| s/eeks/weeks
| 22:02
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| themayor
| hey yanstadel!!!
| 22:02
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| themayor
| welcome
| 22:02
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| moixs
| Hi yanstadel, welcome :)
| 22:02
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| e1luca1
| Hi, I'm an ambassador not in mk team so I'll be as quiet as I can
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| inode0
| ambassadors do not have quiet in their nature!
| 22:03
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| moixs
| :p
| 22:03
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| yanstadel
| thx, themayor and moixs
| 22:04
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| e1luca1
| so I manage to make a good joke :D
| 22:04
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| themayor
| e1luca1: its all good, feel free to join us
| 22:04
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| themayor
| okay anyway
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| themayor
| let us begin
| 22:04
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| moixs
| First point for me on the list, the release announcment
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| themayor
| yeah i wanted to bring that up
| 22:05
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| moixs
| As you have probably seen, I fucked it up :p
| 22:05
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| themayor
| well let me hear what you wanted to say first
| 22:06
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| themayor
| i actually fucked up a little too
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| moixs
| I wasn't aware that the docs team was already working on it
| 22:06
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| moixs
| good news is, we wrote aproximatively the same ;)
| 22:06
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| themayor
| okay so last week we had a beta-ready meeting
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| themayor
| and we spoke about what stuff we need to work together on, etc
| 22:06
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| themayor
| docs mentioned at that meeting that they had an announcement ready already, or partially ready
| 22:07
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| moixs
| ok, I dind't read the log :/
| 22:07
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| themayor
| and i didnt send a summary to out list
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| themayor
| my fault on that
| 22:07
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| moixs
| Do they plan on doing the same for all future release announcments?
| 22:07
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| themayor
| but i view this as a good thing because we also spoke about areas in which we need to collaborate in the future and the fact there was a crossed wire shows there is an opportunity to nail this next time
| 22:08
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| themayor
| moixs: for the most part yes, but we should work with them on it
| 22:08
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| themayor
| after all we ARE marketing
| 22:08
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| themayor
| and they arent against that
| 22:08
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| moixs
| ok, that's less work for me. I'll send this text to the NDN 2 days before the actual release.
| 22:08
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| spevack
| we've talked before about the need to coordinate these sorts of things across teams
| 22:08
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| themayor
| thats a couple more items we need to add to our schedule
| 22:08
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| themayor
| write the release announcement, or work on them, whatever the arrangement will be
| 22:09
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| themayor
| i am going to be talking to the docs guys again tomottoew
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| themayor
| tomorrow
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| moixs
| Who has the lead on this in the docs team btw?
| 22:09
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| themayor
| so i will mention this to them and see how we can get 50/50 on this
| 22:09
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| moixs
| One thing you can tell them, is not to use english-specific cultural references
| 22:10
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| themayor
| i think john did most of it
| 22:10
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| themayor
| and sparks too
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| themayor
| and i know susan did some of it
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| themayor
| it was sparks who was at that beta meeting btw
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| moixs
| Ok, when I send the text to the NDN I'll just mention to adapt it to local cultures. Sentences like "Is a better operating system than Fedora 10 even possible?" are not appreciated AT ALL from French people for example.
| 22:11
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| moixs
| btw, next point :p
| 22:12
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| spevack
| !
| 22:12
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| themayor
| yes
| 22:12
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| * stickster comes in late, sorry
| 22:12
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| spevack
| Sentences like "Is a better operating system than Fedora 10 even possible" shouldn't really be written in any language! :)
| 22:13
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| themayor
| lol
| 22:13
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| themayor
| agreed, well paul mentioned we want the slogan to be actionable
| 22:13
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| moixs
| In some cultures it's ok to say that, people get over it...not in France.
| 22:13
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| spevack
| Fedora 11: Be Metal
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| themayor
| ah we are talking about the announcement
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| stickster
| spevack: lol
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| themayor
| yeah, bad sentence
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| themayor
| anyway
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| themayor
| i will talk to them tomorrow about how we want to do this from now and report back to the list
| 22:14
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| themayor
| sound good?
| 22:14
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| moixs
| yep
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| themayor
| im going to siggest that we come up with the key points maybe, and then they can flesh it out
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| themayor
| because we will have a bunch of stuff by a beta release
| 22:14
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| themayor
| they can cull from that
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| themayor
| next topic
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| themayor
| the slogan
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| themayor
| let me just pull it up
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| moixs
| (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan)
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| themayor
| yup
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| themayor
| anyone have any thoughts on that?
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| themayor
| stickster: ??
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| stickster
| I have plenty, but I thought we were just gathering ideas at this point.
| 22:17
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| themayor
| yes we were
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| stickster
| At what time are we going to declare an end to idea-gathering, and move on to critique and winnowing down the list?
| 22:17
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| themayor
| but i figured you might have some thoughts thus far
| 22:17
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| themayor
| well we should have it done by the time of the preview
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| themayor
| i would say give it a couple more weeks?
| 22:18
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| e1luca1
| don't art guys need some time in advance to fit the slogan ?
| 22:18
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| themayor
| the slogan is supposed to revolve around the art really
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| themayor
| or match up at least
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| moixs
| e1luca1: yes, but we still have 1 month or so
| 22:19
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| themayor
| the truth is
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| themayor
| i like come and get it
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| themayor
| its rough, and it fits
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| themayor
| although it doesnt really fit in with the keyowrds
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| moixs
| "Come get some" is a bit of the same, more catchy :p
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| themayor
| and i didnt like it at first
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| themayor
| yeah
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| yanstadel
| Is Leonidas bound to Leonidas the king or could it also be Leonidas the athletic?
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| stickster
| We try to match the slogan with some element of the artwork.
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| moixs
| yanstadel: it's bound to nothing, feel free to propose whatever you want
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| themayor
| and then we can speak to the four foundations as the "some" of what you are coming to get
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| themayor
| yes
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| e1luca1
| yanstadel: +1. we have mountains, philosophers, and a lot of 300 movie but nothing about Olympics
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| e1luca1
| like Win at Freedom Olympics
| 22:22
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| yanstadel
| just added another slogang
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| yanstadel
| -g
| 22:22
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| * stickster notes the artwork team will need enough notice to create any related banners, and the websites team will need notice to move the slogan *and* send it to Translation
| 22:22
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| yanstadel
| "keep on running"
| 22:22
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| themayor
| anyway, lets not get carried away
| 22:23
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| themayor
| lets set 2 weeks from now as the cutoff date
| 22:23
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| themayor
| sound good?
| 22:23
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| moixs
| 1 week for ideas, one week for selection?
| 22:23
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| themayor
| no 2 weeks for ideas
| 22:23
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| themayor
| then another week for selection
| 22:23
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| moixs
| okay
| 22:23
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| e1luca1
| in 2 weeks we'll need another 8 to sort through ideas
| 22:23
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| themayor
| and we coordinate with art that 3rd week
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| themayor
| na i dont think so, because we will be talking about it on the list
| 22:23
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| * stickster notes that he retains veto power :-)
| 22:24
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| * spevack would like to propose the next topic for tonight's meeting, when this one is complete
| 22:24
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| spevack
| stickster: it's good to be king, eh?
| 22:24
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| themayor
| stickster: absolutely, you're involved in this process 100%
| 22:24
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| * stickster has one of the palace attendants peel him another grape
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| themayor
| okay so lets note that too, ill add it to the schedule
| 22:25
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| spevack
| stickster: shouldn't your kids be in school? /runs
| 22:25
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| themayor
| hahaha
| 22:25
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| themayor
| okay so spevack what dud you want to talk about?
| 22:25
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| spevack
| one quick comment
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| spevack
| and one question
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| spevack
| comment first
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| themayor
| shoot
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| spevack
| Dimitris and Diego will be in Amsterdam with me for a week. I plan to do an audio interview with them about Transifex, Fedora localization, etc.
| 22:26
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| spevack
| where/when/how we use it, we can figure out later
| 22:26
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| spevack
| but it's an opportunity worth seizing
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| spevack
|
| 22:27
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| themayor
| tell me more....
| 22:27
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| moixs
| Yep, interviews are always very much appreciated on linux/tech news websites
| 22:27
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| spevack
| themayor: I don't know... just that I figured it would give us a chance to do something like the in-depth F11 feature, but focusing instead on a Fedora sub-project
| 22:27
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| * stickster comes back from talking to his daughter about homework and ironically sees spevack's comment :-D
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| spevack
| themayor: and maybe it can provide a template for doing profiles of different parts of Fedora
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| spevack
| and the people behind them
| 22:28
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| themayor
| spevack: yeah, i was going to ask if you wanted that to be something like an in-depth feature thing
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| themayor
| this actually leads into what yanstadel is here for
| 22:28
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| themayor
| the face of fedora stuff
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| spevack
| well, then feel free to segue into that.
| 22:28
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| themayor
| but before that, spevack, yes its an excellent idea
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| yanstadel
| openSuSe has (or had?) a interview-series called people of opensuse
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| themayor
| i think we should be doing contributor profiles, like text profiles and put them up on planet
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| themayor
| and then the face of fedora video comes out of that
| 22:29
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| * spevack remembers fondly his "lesser known fedora contributors" series
| 22:29
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| themayor
| yes
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| themayor
| that was good
| 22:29
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| yanstadel
| they had a list of interessting people, wehe everyone could add people of whom he wants to read a interview
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| yanstadel
| every month they picked up one and published a interview with him
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| stickster
| spevack: I did a few of those myself :-) Rasther just found his... from almost a year ago!
| 22:30
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| yanstadel
| and i think it would be a good idea to do something like that in the fedora project too
| 22:30
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| yanstadel
| what do you think about it?
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| themayor
| yanstadel: i think its a great idea
| 22:31
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| themayor
| would you want to work together with me on a series like that
| 22:32
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| yanstadel
| yes, of course
| 22:32
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| themayor
| we can do individuals, and then groups
| 22:32
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| yanstadel
| yes
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| themayor
| and we can grow from that into the face of fedora video
| 22:32
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| yanstadel
| yes, but i think this is going to be a very great step, from written interviews to video interviews
| 22:33
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| yanstadel
| for videos you need much more infrastructure and manpower
| 22:33
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| themayor
| na, i think we just need to figure out what we want people to put in their videos and have them self-submitted
| 22:34
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| e1luca1
| how about just still pictures. and, could you also include ambassadors in the interviews? I need some stories of ambassadors for a project there
| 22:34
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| yanstadel
| ok, this would be an idea
| 22:34
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| themayor
| sound good?
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| moixs
| I see one problem with videos
| 22:35
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| themayor
| for the videos, we've spoken about this before, basically last time we came to a conclusion, 3 minutes or less
| 22:35
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| themayor
| hello i am foo
| 22:35
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| themayor
| this is what i do for fedora
| 22:35
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| themayor
| this is why i am fedora
| 22:35
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| themayor
| thats it
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| * wonderer_ steps in
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| moixs
| People are not all very confident to record themselves on video, particularly non-english people.
| 22:36
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| themayor
| and we can intersperse those with longer features which we decide upon doing
| 22:36
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| moixs
| For this reason, I's like to see both types of interviews
| 22:36
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| moixs
| I'd like
| 22:36
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| themayor
| okay so the campaign starts like this
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| themayor
| first text interviews
| 22:37
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| themayor
| then we move up to groups
| 22:37
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| themayor
| then from groups we go to videos
| 22:37
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| themayor
| sound good?
| 22:37
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| themayor
| and it will be an ongoing thing
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| themayor
| from say beta until like a couple months after release
| 22:38
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| moixs
| sounds fine
| 22:38
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| yanstadel
| for me too
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| wonderer_
| !
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| * spevack is experiencing lag that makes him almost unable to participate in the meeting, just FYI
| 22:39
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| themayor
| yes wonderer_?
| 22:39
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| wonderer_
| some short notice. for FUDCon / Linuxtag I will go for some written Interviews for some PR. So if anybody is interresstet please contact me.
| 22:39
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| themayor
| you can just say what you want, no need for the !
| 22:39
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| * spevack is going to work with wonderer_ on that
| 22:39
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| wonderer_
| ok
| 22:39
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| themayor
| wonderer_: okay see if you can seek out people
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| themayor
| ill throw up a place on the wiki to track our work and email the list
| 22:40
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| themayor
| let me add this to my list of things
| 22:40
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| wonderer_
| themayor: yes, I allready work with max on that. so, also if anybody need such stuff - wonderer AT fedoraproject DOR or :-)
| 22:40
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| wonderer_
| ok.
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| wonderer_
| eof :-)
| 22:41
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| spevack
| themayor: we're going to be doing interviews w/ FUDCon VIPs to generate press leading up to FUDcon berline
| 22:41
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| themayor
| niiiice
| 22:41
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| themayor
| this is all written right?
| 22:41
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| themayor
| or audio?
| 22:41
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| spevack
| right now we're just focusing on written
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| spevack
| but the thing w/ diego & dimitris will touch on fudcon
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| spevack
| and if i can find a really easy way to capture audio, i'll do some audio interviews for various purposes and make this a recurring thing.
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| themayor
| great!!!
| 22:42
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| spevack
| stickster has done some work on that, maybe he can just hand it to me :)
| 22:42
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| stickster
| I can write up a wiki page on it
| 22:43
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| wonderer_
| spevack: as a radio mod I had some stuff. lets talk later on that issue ;-)
| 22:43
|
| * spevack is laaaaazy
| 22:43
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| * wonderer_ sends max acup of coffee _]3
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| themayor
| hahaha
| 22:44
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| stickster
| Brilliant emoticon dude!
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| themayor
| anyway
| 22:44
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| themayor
| yeah that was pretty damn sweet
| 22:44
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| * spevack doesn't get it..... oh wait, the 3 is the handle of the cup!
| 22:44
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| themayor
| _]3
| 22:44
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| spevack
| lulz
| 22:44
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| themayor
| _]D
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| themayor
| thats more like it
| 22:45
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| spevack
| -]3 -- my cup is half full!
| 22:45
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| moixs
| Interesting discussion, but can we move on? :p
| 22:45
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| wonderer_
| maybe something for shirts?! (c) ... anyway.
| 22:45
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| themayor
| ~]D
| 22:45
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| themayor
| now thats more like it
| 22:45
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| themayor
| but i dont even drink coffee
| 22:45
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| themayor
| anyway
| 22:45
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| themayor
| lets move on
| 22:45
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| spevack
| moving on :P
| 22:45
|
| * wonderer_ drinks right now out of a fedora blue IBM coffee cup ... just a hint...
| 22:46
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| themayor
| hahaha
| 22:47
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| themayor
| spevack: you are still on tap to brief famsco right?
| 22:48
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| moixs
| Do we have other things to talk about (picture book?) or are we more and more efficient to the point of lowering meeting times under 1h? :p
| 22:48
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| themayor
| well ian isnt here
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| stickster
| PICTURE!
| 22:48
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| themayor
| i will email him to send an update to the list
| 22:48
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| themayor
| BOOK
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| themayor
| he sent an email saying he wouldnt be here
| 22:48
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| themayor
| okay we still need two people to do in depth features
| 22:49
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| themayor
| volume control and virt improved console
| 22:50
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| themayor
| any takers?
| 22:50
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| themayor
| its just a short interview
| 22:50
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| themayor
| pretty please?
| 22:50
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| moixs
| As a sidenote (I sent a mail to spevack about this), I'm starting my bachelor thesis really soon this I'll be less present for the 2 next months. That's why I don't pick up any heavy tasks at the moment.
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| themayor
| ah k
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| themayor
| well moixs thanks for everything that you do
| 22:51
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| e1luca1
| good luck with the exams
| 22:51
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| themayor
| okay i guess there are no takers, im going to start prodding people senselessly in private
| 22:52
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| themayor
| herlo: didnt you mention you wanted one?
| 22:52
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| moixs
| e1luca1: the exams are over, only the thesis is left :)
| 22:52
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| moixs
| (which is heavily Fedora based btw)
| 22:52
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| e1luca1
| well put a lot of graphs looks thicker ;)
| 22:53
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| themayor
| hahaha
| 22:53
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| themayor
| okay so im going to wrap up, except for one point
| 22:54
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| themayor
| next week
| 22:54
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| themayor
| we need to start working on the press kit
| 22:54
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| themayor
| be prepared with ideas for next week
| 22:54
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| themayor
| moixs: dont know if youll be able to make it, but its a good auxiliary to the NDN
| 22:54
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| moixs
| yep, send it in the meeting reminder too
| 22:55
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| e1luca1
| @ the mayor: pls explain a little the task left untaken about the features. I might try somethig
| 22:55
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| themayor
| e1luca1: hold on ill link you
| 22:55
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| moixs
| themayor: don't worry, I'm not overloaded with work at *that* point, I'll still assume some tasks and assist to the meetings ;)
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| themayor
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features
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| |<-- lxo has left freenode (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
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| themayor
| my internet is ass slow today for some reason
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| =-= mizmo is now known as mizmo-out
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| e1luca1
| is it to late if I figure out if I can do it by day after tomorrow?
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| themayor
| no
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| themayor
| we have time
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| themayor
| we have until the beta
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| themayor
| e1luca1: there is an example under packagekit
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| themayor
| and i have one about the kernel mode setting which i will put up as soon as ajax finished answering some questions for me
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| themayor
| hes been busy last two days unfortunately
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| e1luca1
| k. I'll register on the wiki if I'll do it.
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| themayor
| some bug that hes tracking down
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| themayor
| thanks
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| themayor
| alright folks, thats about ti
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