| themayor
| hey guys
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| moixs
| hello :)
| 22:00
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| themayor
| fedora marketing meetings
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| linuxguru
| yay
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| herlo
| oh hai!
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| herlo
| .fas herlo
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| zodbot
| herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1@gmail.com>
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| themayor
| anyone else?
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| =-= herlo has changed the topic to ``Fedora Marketing Meeting - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2009-May/msg00011.html
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| themayor
| lets give it another minute
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| herlo
| k
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| themayor
| alright lets go
| 22:05
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| herlo
| k
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| themayor
| let me get into the fedora tour thing first
| 22:05
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| themayor
| herlo, did you get a chance to finish up the screenshot tour:?
| 22:06
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| * herlo was unable to get the fingerprint reader thing to work on his machine, not sure what's going on there. Haven't had time to troubleshoot much
| 22:06
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| herlo
| in addition, I wanted to get the screencast for the new boot up on the tour too...
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| themayor
| okay what options do you have for the fingerprint stuff?
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| herlo
| apparently none now
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| themayor
| can you ask someone on another list to contribute?
| 22:07
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| herlo
| probably
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| herlo
| not sure where, but if that's the only thing missing, I'm not too sad
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| moixs
| Is it really that important to put so much effort into one screenshot? :p
| 22:07
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| herlo
| exactly my thoughts
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| * stickster is here late, sorry
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| themayor
| yes, because it is a feature we are promoting
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| stickster
| herlo: Hey, I think I have you covered
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| stickster
| themayor: ^^
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| herlo
| stickster: ooh, cool
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| themayor
| awesome
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| herlo
| stickster: we need an about me and a pop-up message
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| stickster
| Hang on... brb, uploading from a different user login
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| herlo
| those are the ones I wanted to get
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| themayor
| stickster: thats for the fingerprint thing or the boot up? or both?
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| herlo
| stickster: I have the boot screencast done
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| herlo
| http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/f11-plymouth-restart.ogg
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| stickster
| fprint
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| herlo
| sweet!
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| themayor
| okay great
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| themayor
| okay so we are good to go with that portion of things, right?
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| moixs
| herlo: can't you just edit out the whole part which shows display corruptions?
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| herlo
| moixs: yeah, probably, but I don't know that it even matters that much
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| stickster
| herlo: http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/temp/fprint/
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| stickster
| Anything else you need besides those?
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| herlo
| moixs: any suggestions for doing that? I could use mencoder to rip it out I suppose and splice it back together gstreamer
| 22:12
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| * herlo looks at what stickster linked
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| herlo
| stickster: yeah, we need a pop-up that prompts for password / fingerprint
| 22:13
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| themayor
| aside from that we have the actual Fedora 11 Tour Page
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| themayor
| take a look here
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| themayor
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_tour
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| stickster
| herlo: Ah, OK
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| moixs
| herlo: no idea, but any video editing applications could be used to cut a piece out. I just don't know any :p
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| themayor
| i sent out an email about this to the list last week and no one responded
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| herlo
| moixs: I'll look around. I'm trying to get the Media printed this week so we'll see what kind of time I have
| 22:14
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| moixs
| herlo: I'll have a look at it
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| stickster
| herlo: You mean the gnome-screensaver unlock dialog?
| 22:14
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| themayor
| we should have that page up and running for release day, so its best to start work on it now
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| themayor
| i need help with it
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| herlo
| stickster: that'd work, or running an app that needs root privileges
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| stickster
| herlo: wouldn't that require the user registering fingerprints for root?
| 22:15
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| * stickster checks to see if PolicyKit works on fprint
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| herlo
| stickster: dunno, maybe it's not recommended, fprint for screensaver is fine
| 22:15
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| herlo
| I use fprint for root
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| herlo
| er thinkfinger
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| stickster
| Just speaking for myself, I wouldn't
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| stickster
| but meh
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| herlo
| well, then it's probably a good idea not to use my suggestion
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| herlo
| anyway, I'll take your images and make a new section for it on the tour
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| themayor
| can someone help me out with the fedora 11 tour page?
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| herlo
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_tour
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| herlo
| themayor: a link? or did you need stuff on there
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| themayor
| well it needs to be filled in
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| herlo
| I can do the boot screencast in there
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| themayor
| does anyone think they have time to take ownership of that whole thing and bang it out?
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| themayor
| okay i guess not
| 22:20
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| * themayor adds yet another thing to my list
| 22:20
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| themayor
| moving on
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| themayor
| ive pretty much been working on all the content and lead up news thats been going out and will continue to go out
| 22:21
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| * spevack shows up late, thinking the meeting wasn't until the next :00. apologies
| 22:21
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| themayor
| stickster: any idea if we are slipping?
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| * themayor waves to spevack
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| spevack
| themayor: howdy, sorry i'm late
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| themayor
| np
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| themayor
| you havent missed much
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| stickster
| themayor: We will be slipping by a week, I just came from a confab with rel-eng and other folks
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| themayor
| okay nice
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| stickster
| Well, let me be more precise -- Jesse is checking with FESCo to make sure that rel-eng is the one who announces that.
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| themayor
| so therefore, i dont need to put out two interviews on thursday
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| stickster
| If not, FESCo will need to consider it.
| 22:22
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| themayor
| ah so its not 100% yet
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| stickster
| rel-eng and QA and everyone else in the meeting was agreed.
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| stickster
| So I don't foresee a big conflict about it, just that it needs to be ratified properly.
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| themayor
| ah okay
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| themayor
| alright so the schedule is like this
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| themayor
| for thursday, im am going to print the virt interview with danpb
| 22:23
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| themayor
| i have asked josh boyer to see if he wants to conduct a podcast on mingw
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| themayor
| if so, that could go out next week
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| themayor
| oh also, i have the podcast with j5 on fedora community
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| herlo
| themayor: Fedora Classroom has some good irc sessions on MingW from April iirc
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| stickster
| Josh Boyer and MinGW?
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| herlo
| that could be a useful link if you want to add it
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| themayor
| huh?
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| herlo
| themayor: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Using_the_Windows_cross-compiler_Classroom_%2820090308%29
| 22:25
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| themayor
| er, presto
| 22:25
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| themayor
| sorry
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| themayor
| my head is in the air
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| herlo
| ahh, nm
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| themayor
| i was thinking to figure out if i could get someone to do something on mingw
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| herlo
| themayor: I'm sure Richard would be willing
| 22:26
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| themayor
| yeah we already did one podcast with him though
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| herlo
| ahh
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| stickster
| Richard Jones?
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| themayor
| its richard jones?
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| herlo
| stickster: yeah I believe so
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| herlo
| rwmjones
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| herlo
| Using the Windows cross-compiler - Richard Jones
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| herlo
| this is all from Fedora Classroom wiki page
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| herlo
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom#Classroom_Archive
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| spevack
| Richard's going to give a talk on MinGW stuff at FUDCon Berlin, too.
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| herlo
| w00t!
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| themayor
| ah sorry wrong richard
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| themayor
| i thought it was richard hughes for some reason, wow im really messed up today
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| themayor
| lack of sleep
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| themayor
| okay so yeah anyway, jboyer to interview seth for presto
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| themayor
| and i will try and get something with richard jones then
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| themayor
| and on top of that the volume control interview
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| stickster
| Yeah, we still don't have anyone else picking that one up, do we?
| 22:29
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| themayor
| which one?
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| themayor
| volume control?
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| stickster
| yes, the volume control feature
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| stickster
| I think it was still unclaimed on the in-depth feature lsit.
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| stickster
| *list
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| themayor
| what do you mean, i did it
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| themayor
| with lennart
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| themayor
| we didnt do anything on ext4
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| stickster
| Oh, I had forgotten that you did the one with Lennart!
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| stickster
| Excellent.
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| themayor
| lennart told me if i want audio to ask bastien, but the print stuff is done
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| themayor
| because apparently lennart has a heavy accent
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| stickster
| He writes really well, though. :-)
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| stickster
| Better than a lot of English speakers I know :-)
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| themayor
| thats why i suggested if anyone in germany or another country would be interested in conducting a podcast in their native tongue
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| themayor
| ill poke the list about it
| 22:32
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| halfline
| lennart has a very understandable accent
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| themayor
| idk either way
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| halfline
| i think he just used that as an excuse :-)
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| themayor
| hahaha
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| themayor
| yeah danpb didnt wanna do audio at all and was like straight up, no
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| themayor
| lol
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| spevack
| perhaps lennart is self conscious, but IMHO he does not have a heavy accent. I had a wonderful conversation w/ him at LinuxTag last year
| 22:34
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| spevack
| but, whatever :)
| 22:34
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| themayor
| anyway
| 22:35
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| themayor
| regardless, lets focus on what we can get done
| 22:35
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| themayor
| i just sent a mail to the list about a foreign language podcast
| 22:35
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| themayor
| lets see what happens
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| themayor
| both those 4 or 5 pieces should get us through next week to release
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| themayor
| oh and something about the new virt features in fedora is going on the press blog too, hopefully on thursday
| 22:36
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| spevack
| did we talk about https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_tour yet?
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| herlo
| spevack: yep
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| herlo
| spevack: but if you have something to add, I'd love to hear it
| 22:36
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| spevack
| herlo: nope -- i'll just scrollback and read
| 22:36
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| themayor
| other than that, we should decide now, what content we want out and to be pointing to on release day
| 22:37
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| themayor
| ill defer to stickster to see what you think on that one, and then ill take it from there
| 22:38
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| stickster
| OK, so to answer the question of what to point *to*, I need to know where we're pointing *from*
| 22:39
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| stickster
| In general, community news outlets we'll want to send a link to the release announcement that is posted on the fedora-announce-list
| 22:39
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| stickster
| That announcement has all the links to download sites and other important bits.
| 22:39
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| themayor
| exactly
| 22:40
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| stickster
| If people are blogging about the release individually, they should probably point to http://get.fedoraproject.org for downloads
| 22:40
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| stickster
| and http://join.fedoraproject.org for calls to action
| 22:41
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| stickster
| ***Important note:
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| themayor
| okay so lets see whats going on with the release announcement
| 22:41
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| themayor
| yeah go ahrad
| 22:41
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| stickster
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/SOP/Release#Static_.2F_cached_urls
| 22:42
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| stickster
| That link contains a list of static/cached URLs run by the Infrastructure team
| 22:42
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| stickster
| If you're sending something to a place that might get us slashdotted, make sure you are using only URLs on that list
| 22:42
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| themayor
| okay so we should add the tour there
| 22:42
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| stickster
| themayor: hang on, I was getting to that
| 22:42
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| stickster
| If you need to add a wiki page,
| 22:42
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| themayor
| okay sorry to interrupt
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| stickster
| The wiki is cached on release day
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| stickster
| make sure you use the *http://* URL
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| stickster
| *NOT* the *https://* URL
| 22:43
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| stickster
| Otherwise you force the servers to go through a bunch of auth stuff
| 22:43
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| stickster
| the plain HTTP version is cached and should be fast enough to handle heavy load.
| 22:43
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| spevack
| stickster: very good, important tip
| 22:44
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| herlo
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_tour now has the new charge plymouth bootup screencast...
| 22:44
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| stickster
| OK, sorry that was a little on the propellerhead side.
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| stickster
| But anyway.
| 22:45
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| stickster
| themayor: Were there other areas where people will be putting up info that I didn't cover?
| 22:45
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| stickster
| themayor: Oh, I remember the other thing I wanted to add
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| stickster
| themayor: Does the NDN already have a coverage plan for Digg, Reddit, etc.?
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| themayor
| moixs: ?
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| themayor
| all i know is that ive been submitting to digg
| 22:46
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| themayor
| and what do you mean by coverage plan
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| themayor
| meaning who will submit to them?
| 22:46
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| stickster
| Exactly.
| 22:46
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| moixs
| As usual, it's the responsibility of the people in their respective languages
| 22:46
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| moixs
| that is, themayor :D
| 22:46
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| themayor
| yeah i got english
| 22:47
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| stickster
| Okey dokey
| 22:47
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| themayor
| so if there are other sites in english you want submitted other than slashdot, digg, reddit, newsvine, etc and whatevers on the list
| 22:47
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| themayor
| those are mine
| 22:47
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| stickster
| themayor: OK, do you have a URL to that list handy?
| 22:48
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| themayor
| anything else, you can add to the list or email
| 22:48
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| themayor
| its linked off the ndn page
| 22:48
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| themayor
| one sec
| 22:48
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| stickster
| Oh never mind, AwesomeBar to the rescue
| 22:48
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| themayor
| awesomebar?
| 22:49
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| themayor
| the ff3 address bar
| 22:50
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| stickster
| yup. Go ahead, I got it
| 22:50
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| moixs
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications
| 22:50
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| themayor
| i should add some stuff to the list
| 22:51
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| themayor
| ill do that today
| 22:51
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| stickster
| themayor: I don't see digg, reddit, etc. there
| 22:51
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| stickster
| Ah, OK
| 22:51
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| * stickster catches up
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| themayor
| i want to finish the virt thing so caroline can take a look at it
| 22:51
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| themayor
| yeah i usually do digg, slashdot, reddit, propellerhead, newsvine, shoutwire and a few others
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| themayor
| ill add everything to the list today to make sure its official
| 22:52
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| stickster
| Sweet
| 22:53
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| themayor
| other than that, we need to make sure all the links get into the release announcement
| 22:53
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| themayor
| i just emailed sparks and the list asking for progress
| 22:53
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| themayor
| because not much was done yet
| 22:54
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| stickster
| themayor: They were speaking about it in #fedora-docs earlier
| 22:54
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| themayor
| stickster: we are going to be translating that, right? not rh press people, correct>?
| 22:54
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| stickster
| themayor: Each locale can produce its own topside content for that announcement.
| 22:54
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| themayor
| ah okay, as long as thats cool
| 22:55
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| stickster
| The bottomside content in the announcement is pretty cut and dried and can be translated easily. For example, "To download, visit: <URL>"
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| themayor
| yup
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| themayor
| alright, so maybe moixs, can we get pages for each language of the ndn where they can write their own stuff on?
| 22:56
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| moixs
| What do you mean by "get"?
| 22:57
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| =-= rdieter is now known as rdieter_
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| themayor
| can we create
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| moixs
| Edit the wiki the way you want, but one page per language for the announcement seems reasonable
| 22:57
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| moixs
| yeah sure
| 22:57
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| themayor
| okay do you have time to do it?
| 22:57
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| moixs
| It should take no longer than 2 minutes to create empty pages, so yes
| 22:58
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| themayor
| okay awesome
| 22:59
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| stickster
| themayor: moixs: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcements
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| stickster
| Just pointing that out
| 22:59
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| moixs
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_archive#Fedora_Press_Releases
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| moixs
| Should we add them there?
| 23:00
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| moixs
| (yes, i just discovered this section)
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| themayor
| yeah release announcement sounds better
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| themayor
| lets do that and work from there
| 23:00
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| themayor
| if you send me a link, i can send it to the list notifying people that its there and they can use it
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| moixs
| Wasn't there a page for the english one already?
| 23:02
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| themayor
| yes
| 23:02
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| * moixs is lost in links
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| themayor
| http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Announcement_for_F11
| 23:02
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| moixs
| Good, I'm going to set up the pages for the other languages
| 23:03
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| moixs
| Then, the translation teams need to update them
| 23:04
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| themayor
| alright, so other than that, i think we are good through next week where we can bring up release day stuff again and finalize our plan
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| themayor
| sound like a plan?
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| herlo
| ya
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| themayor
| stickster, spevack anything to add?
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| stickster
| themayor: No, just that you and Sparks share the ball for the release announcement
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| ianweller
| oh my, a marketing meeting that i totally just missed
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| themayor
| stickster: oy vey!
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| stickster
| ianweller: We assigned everything to you, don't worry about it.
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| ianweller
| stickster: thanks.
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| themayor
| thats rough
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| stickster
| hee hee
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| ianweller
| :D
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| themayor
| anyway lets call it a meeting
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