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This proposal intends to | This proposal intends to remove the ''nscd'' cache for named services in Fedora 35. nscd is already [[Changes/DeprecateNSCD|planned for deprecation]] in Fedora 34. The functionality it currently provides can be achieved by using ''systemd-resolved'' for DNS caching and the ''sssd'' daemon for everything else. | ||
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* FESCo issue: | * FESCo issue: [https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2501 #2501] | ||
* Tracker bug: | * Tracker bug: [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1905142 #1905142] | ||
* Release notes tracker: | * Release notes tracker: [https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issue/610 #610] | ||
== Detailed Description == | == Detailed Description == | ||
''nscd'' is a daemon that provides caching for accesses of the `passwd`, `group`, `hosts`, `services`, and `netgroup` databases through standard libc interfaces (such as `getpwnam`, `getpwuid`, `getgrnam`, `getgrgid`, `gethostbyname`, etc.). This proposal intends to | ''nscd'' is a daemon that provides caching for accesses of the `passwd`, `group`, `hosts`, `services`, and `netgroup` databases through standard libc interfaces (such as `getpwnam`, `getpwuid`, `getgrnam`, `getgrgid`, `gethostbyname`, etc.). This proposal intends to remove ''nscd'' in Fedora 35 and replace it with functionality provided by ''systemd-resolved'' for the `hosts` database and the ''sssd'' daemon for everything else. Accordingly, the `nscd` sub-package of glibc will be removed in Fedora 35 after being deprecated in Fedora 34. | ||
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== Benefit to Fedora == | == Benefit to Fedora == | ||
The benefits of this change are [[Changes/DeprecateNSCD#Benefit_to_Fedora|already described]] in the deprecation change proposal. | |||
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* Other developers: | The volume of work required is minimal, with the only change being the removal of the nscd sub-package offered by glibc which can be achieved by minor changes to the spec file. Since nscd is not installed by default, the affect on the distribution is minimal. Users who have installed nscd for caching other than DNS in an earlier release of Fedora will need to install and configure sssd instead in order to re-enable caching. For caching DNS queries, Fedora already has systemd-resolved enabled by [[Changes/systemd-resolved|default since Fedora 33]]. | ||
* Other developers: | |||
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* Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issues #Releng issue number] (a check of an impact with Release Engineering is needed) | `nss-pam-ldapd` has a weak dependency on nscd that will need to be removed. `libuser` has a build dependency on nscd that will also need to be removed. | ||
`systemd` supports flushing of the nscd cache when users are added or removed. This support will be dropped at compilation time ([https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/17879 upstream pull request]). | |||
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This change does not require coordination with or have impact on release engineering and does not require a mass rebuild. | |||
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* Alignment with Objectives: | * Alignment with Objectives: | ||
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While this proposal does not directly move any of the currently stated [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/objectives objectives] forward, it is not opposed to any. | |||
== Upgrade/compatibility impact == | == Upgrade/compatibility impact == | ||
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The nscd sub-package depends on a glibc version that is identical to itself. This means that once it is removed and marked as obsolete in Fedora 35, updating from a previous release of Fedora with nscd installed on it, the old nscd package will be uninstalled during the update. Named services caching will cease to function, but the only effect will be slower resolution due to the missing cache. This will be more marked in systems that use remote remote authentication services like LDAP. Functionality will not be affected in any way. | |||
The hosts cache will automatically be replaced by the one provided by systemd-resolved. However, in order to restore caching functionality for other caches provided by nscd, the system administrator will need to install and/or configure sssd (by enabling sssd with authconfig, and editing `/etc/sssd/sssd.conf` to enable it to work with nss). | |||
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* Most users will be unaffected by this change because nscd is not installed by default. It is usually used on systems configured with LDAP, where nscd provides caching of remote queries. | |||
* On a system using nscd that is updated to Fedora 35 from a previous version, the system administrator will need to install and configure sssd to replace it after the update. Even when this is not done, the only visible affect will be slower resolution of named service queries due to a missing cache. | |||
* Users on a system running sssd and systemd-resolved instead of nscd shouldn't see any noticeable difference in system behaviour or latency in resolving named services. | |||
== Dependencies == | == Dependencies == | ||
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* `nss-pam-ldapd` has a weak dependency on nscd that will need to be removed. | |||
* `libuser` has a build dependency on nscd that will also need to be removed. | |||
Both changes are minimal, requiring a removal of the dependency in the spec file, and a rebuild. | |||
== Contingency Plan == | == Contingency Plan == | ||
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* Contingency mechanism: | * Contingency mechanism: Revert changes to `glibc` spec file and continue to ship nscd. Revert changes to `libuser`, `nss-pam-ldapd`, and `systemd` packages; this will need to be done by the respective package maintainers. | ||
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* Contingency deadline: | * Contingency deadline: Fedora 35 Beta Freeze | ||
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== Documentation == | == Documentation == | ||
Latest revision as of 13:43, 21 April 2022
Remove nscd
Summary
This proposal intends to remove the nscd cache for named services in Fedora 35. nscd is already planned for deprecation in Fedora 34. The functionality it currently provides can be achieved by using systemd-resolved for DNS caching and the sssd daemon for everything else.
Owner
- Name: Arjun Shankar
- Email: arjun@redhat.com
Current status
- Targeted release: Fedora 36
- Last updated: 2022-04-21
- FESCo issue: #2501
- Tracker bug: #1905142
- Release notes tracker: #610
Detailed Description
nscd is a daemon that provides caching for accesses of the passwd, group, hosts, services, and netgroup databases through standard libc interfaces (such as getpwnam, getpwuid, getgrnam, getgrgid, gethostbyname, etc.). This proposal intends to remove nscd in Fedora 35 and replace it with functionality provided by systemd-resolved for the hosts database and the sssd daemon for everything else. Accordingly, the nscd sub-package of glibc will be removed in Fedora 35 after being deprecated in Fedora 34.
Benefit to Fedora
The benefits of this change are already described in the deprecation change proposal.
Scope
- Proposal owners:
The volume of work required is minimal, with the only change being the removal of the nscd sub-package offered by glibc which can be achieved by minor changes to the spec file. Since nscd is not installed by default, the affect on the distribution is minimal. Users who have installed nscd for caching other than DNS in an earlier release of Fedora will need to install and configure sssd instead in order to re-enable caching. For caching DNS queries, Fedora already has systemd-resolved enabled by default since Fedora 33.
- Other developers:
nss-pam-ldapd has a weak dependency on nscd that will need to be removed. libuser has a build dependency on nscd that will also need to be removed.
systemd supports flushing of the nscd cache when users are added or removed. This support will be dropped at compilation time (upstream pull request).
- Release engineering:
This change does not require coordination with or have impact on release engineering and does not require a mass rebuild.
- Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
- Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)
- Alignment with Objectives:
While this proposal does not directly move any of the currently stated objectives forward, it is not opposed to any.
Upgrade/compatibility impact
The nscd sub-package depends on a glibc version that is identical to itself. This means that once it is removed and marked as obsolete in Fedora 35, updating from a previous release of Fedora with nscd installed on it, the old nscd package will be uninstalled during the update. Named services caching will cease to function, but the only effect will be slower resolution due to the missing cache. This will be more marked in systems that use remote remote authentication services like LDAP. Functionality will not be affected in any way.
The hosts cache will automatically be replaced by the one provided by systemd-resolved. However, in order to restore caching functionality for other caches provided by nscd, the system administrator will need to install and/or configure sssd (by enabling sssd with authconfig, and editing /etc/sssd/sssd.conf to enable it to work with nss).
How To Test
N/A (not a System Wide Change)
User Experience
- Most users will be unaffected by this change because nscd is not installed by default. It is usually used on systems configured with LDAP, where nscd provides caching of remote queries.
- On a system using nscd that is updated to Fedora 35 from a previous version, the system administrator will need to install and configure sssd to replace it after the update. Even when this is not done, the only visible affect will be slower resolution of named service queries due to a missing cache.
- Users on a system running sssd and systemd-resolved instead of nscd shouldn't see any noticeable difference in system behaviour or latency in resolving named services.
Dependencies
nss-pam-ldapdhas a weak dependency on nscd that will need to be removed.libuserhas a build dependency on nscd that will also need to be removed.
Both changes are minimal, requiring a removal of the dependency in the spec file, and a rebuild.
Contingency Plan
- Contingency mechanism: Revert changes to
glibcspec file and continue to ship nscd. Revert changes tolibuser,nss-pam-ldapd, andsystemdpackages; this will need to be done by the respective package maintainers.
- Contingency deadline: Fedora 35 Beta Freeze
- Blocks release? N/A (not a System Wide Change)
- Blocks product? None
Documentation
N/A (not a System Wide Change)