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Contributing Writer: [[NicuBuculei|Nicu Buculei]]
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=== How to Select a "Winning" Theme ===
=== Near to the Echo ===


[[MairinDuffy]] opened[1] a debate on @fedora-art about the best way to select the final theme in a release: "We have not yet had a case where more than one theme met this basic requirement. In case we do have multiple themes that meet this requirement, we need a fair method to choose which theme is selected as the default" and going further, she proposed a solution and asked for opinions: "My suggestion is that we have a vote within the set of active Fedora art team contributors. The problem is how do we determine who is allowed in this vote - who is active? "
Pursuing the declared goal of having the new Echo icon theme ready to be used as a default in Fedora 10, [[MartinSourada]] and [[LuyaTshimbalanga]] continued the development and posting updates[1], [2], gathering feed-back and improvement proposals on @fedora-art. Martin even created an animated demo "also prepared animated gif (slideshow) [3] so you can see all the icons in one batch" and blogged about it.


[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00095.html
[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00202.html


[[SamueleStorari]] opted[2] for a wide vote in the community "I think the vote will be totally open to the whole community." arguing that "the graphic it's made for all, think about art, think about expression, it comes from the inside need of someone to express to other, to comunicate.", an opinion endorsed by [[MariaLeandro]][3] and [[IanWeller]] who proposed[4] an alternate and complex system "Or, perhaps even better, take a two-part voting approach; 50% of the vote allocated to current Art Team members (recent contributions, 6 months, yada yada) and 50% for the community."
[2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00248.html


[2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00099.html
[3] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/Actions/mail-all.gif


[3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00105.html
[4] http://mso-chronicles.blogspot.com/2008/09/batch-of-new-mail-echo-icon.html


[4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00114.html
=== Freedom for a game ===


On the other hand, [[NicuBuculei]] opposed[5] the community vote invoking the notion of competence "the trouble is that the large community knows little about usability and good design", an opinion similar to that expressed[6] by [[MatthiasClasen]] "Taste is not something that can be decided with simple majority. Voting for the default theme would pretty much devolve into 'which is the coolest looking background when glancing at a bunch of screenshots', which is not at all what a good default theme is about. This forum is the place for qualified and interested people to work on the art that makes up the default theme. It should also be the place where the default theme gets put together."
[[NicuBuculei]] relayed[1] to @fedora-art a request from the [[HansdeGoede]], of Games SIG fame: the Project: Starfighter game[2], which used to be included in Fedora, was discovered of having some non-free graphic files and need free replacements to be re-included. [[ErickHenrique]] offered[3] his help "I go to unpack the archive starfighter.pak and to study a form of I redesign everything in a new style" and Hans promised[4] to code a needed utility "About recreating the .pak file I need to write a little utility for that, hopefully I'll have time for that this weekend."


[5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00101.html
[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00231.html


[6] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00116.html
[2] http://www.parallelrealities.co.uk/starfighter.php


Another argument against a community-wide vote was raised[7] by [[MairinDuffy]] "we don't really have time to plan for a Fedora-wide vote, and since there's not much time to wait on people to vote and to get the word out, we won't have a good representation of our base in the vote results."
[3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00246.html


[7] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00106.html
[4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00291.html


From his position as a Fedora Board member, [[JeffSpaleta]] came to the conclusion "I consider the multiple rounds of
=== Infrastructure change for Fedora Art ===
discussion over the themes as a prolonged 'community' decision. The final artwork decision is a culminating event in a process. Are people encouraged to participate in the earlier stages of that process as part of the art team? if they choose not to participate in the previous rounds do they have the context to make informed decisions at the final stage?  Have they earned the right to be a part of the final decision?  I'm not sure they do."


[8] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00111.html
After an IRC consultation with [[MairinDuffy]], [[MartinSourada]] proposed[1] using fedorahosted.org services for the Art team "it might be worth setting up a fedorahosted.org instance for the Fedora Art Team. Primary purpose would be to host our release graphics, but it could serve other purposes as well (e.g. using ticket system for design service come to my mind)", an initiative received with open arms by [[LuyaTshimbalanga]] and with some skepticism[3] by [[IanWeller]] "I'm personally all for the idea, but I knew there were some caveats that
we should definitely look into before we even think about proceeding. I'd also like to see Mo's input, of course." and [[NicuBuculei]][4] "I am strongly against something which would raise the barrier to entry, so a NO-NO would be to require git to upload sketches (proposals) for the upcoming release."


As a solution to get the themes as soon as possible into the hands of the users and receive early feedback [[MairinDuffy]] issued a last-minute call[9] for packaging the current proposals into Fedora 10 Beta "if we could get a package put together with the wallpapers that are in the running so far it could make the Beta." The call answered quickly by [[MartinSourada]] [10], who created the packages.The packages were reviewed and are already available in Rawhide.


[9] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00123.html
[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00242.html


[10] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00137.html
[2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00247.html
 
[3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00263.html
 
[4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00267.html

Revision as of 13:12, 19 September 2008

Artwork

In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork

Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei

Near to the Echo

Pursuing the declared goal of having the new Echo icon theme ready to be used as a default in Fedora 10, MartinSourada and LuyaTshimbalanga continued the development and posting updates[1], [2], gathering feed-back and improvement proposals on @fedora-art. Martin even created an animated demo "also prepared animated gif (slideshow) [3] so you can see all the icons in one batch" and blogged about it.

[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00202.html

[2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00248.html

[3] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/Actions/mail-all.gif

[4] http://mso-chronicles.blogspot.com/2008/09/batch-of-new-mail-echo-icon.html

Freedom for a game

NicuBuculei relayed[1] to @fedora-art a request from the HansdeGoede, of Games SIG fame: the Project: Starfighter game[2], which used to be included in Fedora, was discovered of having some non-free graphic files and need free replacements to be re-included. ErickHenrique offered[3] his help "I go to unpack the archive starfighter.pak and to study a form of I redesign everything in a new style" and Hans promised[4] to code a needed utility "About recreating the .pak file I need to write a little utility for that, hopefully I'll have time for that this weekend."

[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00231.html

[2] http://www.parallelrealities.co.uk/starfighter.php

[3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00246.html

[4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00291.html

Infrastructure change for Fedora Art

After an IRC consultation with MairinDuffy, MartinSourada proposed[1] using fedorahosted.org services for the Art team "it might be worth setting up a fedorahosted.org instance for the Fedora Art Team. Primary purpose would be to host our release graphics, but it could serve other purposes as well (e.g. using ticket system for design service come to my mind)", an initiative received with open arms by LuyaTshimbalanga and with some skepticism[3] by IanWeller "I'm personally all for the idea, but I knew there were some caveats that we should definitely look into before we even think about proceeding. I'd also like to see Mo's input, of course." and NicuBuculei[4] "I am strongly against something which would raise the barrier to entry, so a NO-NO would be to require git to upload sketches (proposals) for the upcoming release."


[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00242.html

[2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00247.html

[3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00263.html

[4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00267.html