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| colspan="2" | =-= ianweller has changed the topic to ``woo marketing meeting''
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | So, let's switch to here for the marketing meeting :)
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | themayor: hi
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | hey
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|- id="t22:03:00"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | were in here now?
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
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| style="color: #854685" | yup
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay that works
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|- id="t22:03:27"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | thanks stickster for setting it up
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|- id="t22:03:42"
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| colspan="2" | * lcafiero has been here
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! style="background-color: #488888" | mizmo
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| style="color: #488888" | hi
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|| [[#t22:03:51|22:03]]
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|- id="t22:03:54"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | Can someone else log the meeting too? I usually get disconnected at 23h (in 1h) because my room mate goes to bed and cuts the wifi ;)
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|| [[#t22:03:54|22:03]]
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|- id="t22:04:09"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | Just in case :)
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|- id="t22:04:21"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | zodbot also keeps logs
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | MostafaDaneshvar
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| style="color: #8c4a4a" | hey
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|| [[#t22:04:31|22:04]]
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|- id="t22:05:21"
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | r0xc0rp
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| style="color: #4b904b" | Hey, I'm logging this too if it helps
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|- id="t22:05:35"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | fine ;)
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|- id="t22:06:07"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay are we all here?
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|- id="t22:06:20"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | (raise your hand if you're not here)
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|- id="t22:06:20"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | Max
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|| [[#t22:06:20|22:06]]
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|- id="t22:06:21"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | roll call please
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|- id="t22:06:29"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | Steven Moix
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|| [[#t22:06:29|22:06]]
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|- id="t22:06:36"
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | r0xc0rp
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| style="color: #4b904b" | Tiago Vieira
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|- id="t22:06:42"
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | MostafaDaneshvar
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| style="color: #8c4a4a" | Mostafa Daneshvar
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|- id="t22:07:56"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay so i assume thats that
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|- id="t22:07:57"
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| colspan="2" | * stickster .
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|- id="t22:08:07"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | let me pull up the schedule
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|- id="t22:08:11"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | and mizmo is here too
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|- id="t22:08:42"
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! style="background-color: #488888" | mizmo
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| style="color: #488888" | yo
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|- id="t22:08:43"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule
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|- id="t22:09:24"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | im gonna give a brief go about my stuff and then follow up with people on theirs
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|- id="t22:09:37"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | the talking points are done
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|- id="t22:09:54"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points
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|- id="t22:10:06"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | stickster: you looked over these, anyone have any feedback?
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|- id="t22:10:31"
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| colspan="2" | * moixs is looking at them right now
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|- id="t22:11:04"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
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| style="color: #854685" | themayor: Did you fix the points I discussed with you Friday night?
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|- id="t22:11:23"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | The separation between different types of users is fine
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|- id="t22:11:52"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | stickster: yeah some of them i think, is there anything i missed?
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|- id="t22:12:12"
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| colspan="2" | * ianweller has read them and likes them
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|- id="t22:13:05"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | anyone else?
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|- id="t22:13:07"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | how much has actually changed since the Alpha version of them?
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|- id="t22:13:10"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | or are people reading
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|- id="t22:13:12"
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| colspan="2" | * spevack consults the page history
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | spevack: bits and pieces, i also added some stuff that i spoke to sticster about
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | stickster: do you want to follow up with jack post-meeting about any additional comments, so we can lock this page down for beta?
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|- id="t22:15:17"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
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| style="color: #854685" | spevack: Yeah, that sounds fine
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|- id="t22:15:22"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
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| style="color: #854685" | I don't want to block the rest of the agenda
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|- id="t22:15:26"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
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| style="color: #854685" | There's much to do!
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|- id="t22:15:37"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
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| style="color: #854685" | Jack, let's get together later on
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|- id="t22:15:55"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay
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|- id="t22:17:07"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay ian, any updates on the banners and stuff?
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|- id="t22:17:14"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | wanna tell everyone whats going on with them
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|- id="t22:17:16"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | for the pbook?
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|- id="t22:17:22"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | or something else
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|- id="t22:18:04"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | i'll assume picture book since that's the only thing i actually own on that page
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|- id="t22:18:09"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | yeah
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|- id="t22:18:11"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | the banner
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|| [[#t22:18:11|22:18]]
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|- id="t22:18:18"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | banner has been imported into fedora-web.git and it's on the fp.o chrome
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|- id="t22:18:25"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | it has about a 1/3 probability of showing up
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|| [[#t22:18:25|22:18]]
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|- id="t22:18:31"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
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| style="color: #854685" | ianweller: I saw that change go into git, awesome
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|| [[#t22:18:31|22:18]]
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|- id="t22:18:44"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | the other 2/3rds is f10 and f11 alpha. so we'll leave those ;)
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|- id="t22:18:48"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | havent seen one yet
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|- id="t22:18:50"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | s/is/are/
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|- id="t22:19:15"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
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| style="color: #854685" | ianweller: Yeah, *somebody* will want that stuff too, maybe
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|- id="t22:19:18"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | oooh i just saw
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | themayor: :D
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | and picture book submissinos are now open.
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|- id="t22:19:32"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | i haven't checked the pictures category yet
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|- id="t22:19:33"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | the three folders or envelope or whatever
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|- id="t22:19:43"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | but mdomsch has asked us to take a look at a couple of photos
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|- id="t22:19:51"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | they're on the talk page of that submitting page
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|- id="t22:20:30"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | awesome
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|- id="t22:20:35"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | so we are well on our way
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|- id="t22:20:42"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | yup
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|- id="t22:20:43"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | please who ever hasnt blogged about it yet, please do so
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|- id="t22:20:47"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | yeah
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|- id="t22:20:49"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | flood the planet
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|- id="t22:21:03"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | i will do one tonight
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | i'll also be lurking the upload log
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|- id="t22:21:42"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | see if any get in without adding the right categories
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | awesome
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|- id="t22:22:33"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | let jus know
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|- id="t22:22:57"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | now we await as many pictures as possible
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | brno will bring quite a few in
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|- id="t22:23:06"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | also, we changed the submission policy slightly
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|- id="t22:23:07"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay so we have on the schedule update the user testimonials
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| colspan="2" | * ianweller will wait until pbook comes up again ;)
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|- id="t22:23:29"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | ianweller: ssorry go ahead, its good that it should be in the log
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | oh. ok
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | nicu and i were discussing the submission policy
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | ther'es now a route for uploading an image if you don't have a release form, and if we would really like to use the photo, we'll ask the photographer to get one
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | (please refresh the schedule page, I made some changes)
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | this would be used for photos taken before the release forms existed
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | so that the photographer wouldn't have to get a form signed unless we were fairly certain that the photo was going in the book.
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | that's all i changed since spevack's changes shortly after the meeting last week
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay great
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | we could still use mockups
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
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| style="color: #42427e" | :)
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| colspan="2" | * ianweller hands the floor back to themayor
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| colspan="2" | * herlo is here
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay so one of the tasks is to update the usertestimonials
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | more specifically
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | to give the page a fresh outlook
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | and either try to make it something current and maintainable
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | or to retire it completely and Archive: it
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|- id="t22:27:09"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | this came up last week
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|- id="t22:27:13"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | but there is no owner
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|- id="t22:27:30"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | As I said last week...too much work for too little right now. We are already lagging behind in this cycle and I don't see it as time well invested.
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|- id="t22:27:50"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | yeah
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|- id="t22:27:56"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | other opinions are welcome, but pick it up then :p
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|- id="t22:28:01"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | i was wondering if anyone was interested
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|- id="t22:28:12"
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| colspan="2" | * spevack agrees that it is a lower priority, but wonders why we haven't tried to get someone to pick it up on the mailing list
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|- id="t22:28:15"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | but if not we will move on
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|- id="t22:28:26"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | an email with a vision for what we want the page to be, asking for volunteers
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|- id="t22:28:51"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | I have a suggestion about this
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|- id="t22:28:59"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | go ahead
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|- id="t22:29:21"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | As I quickly told you last week, we are going to work on Fedora's positioning and marketing at school (confirmed today)
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|| [[#t22:29:21|22:29]]
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|- id="t22:29:35"
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| colspan="2" | * spevack remembers
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|| [[#t22:29:35|22:29]]
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|- id="t22:29:48"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | I can pick up this task there, and discuss what the purpose of this page should be
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|| [[#t22:29:48|22:29]]
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|- id="t22:30:07"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | come up with ideas etc
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|| [[#t22:30:07|22:30]]
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|- id="t22:30:48"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | This can already help to clarify what it should be, before searching an owner
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|| [[#t22:30:48|22:30]]
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|- id="t22:30:51"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | moixs: do you want to do that one the list and see if anyone wants to help you with it
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|| [[#t22:30:51|22:30]]
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|- id="t22:31:47"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | themayor: at the moment, I'd like to keep it silent, for the next 3 weeks or so.
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|- id="t22:32:02"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay so shall we move it down on the schedule
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|- id="t22:32:09"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | themayor: but I can temporary take ownership of it
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|- id="t22:32:24"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay so i am moving it into the next step
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|- id="t22:32:29"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | err, nect phase
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|| [[#t22:32:29|22:32]]
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|- id="t22:32:32"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | and putting your name on it
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|- id="t22:32:42"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | done
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay great
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | themayor: I added a last point to the beta phase
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay great
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| colspan="2" | =-= che__ is now known as che
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|| [[#t22:33:44|22:33]]
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|- id="t22:33:48"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | next topic
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|- id="t22:33:53"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | the in depth feature focus
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|- id="t22:34:00"
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| colspan="2" | * spevack perks up
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|- id="t22:34:09"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features
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|- id="t22:34:14"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | yes
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|- id="t22:34:21"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | sorry to interrupt, carry on :)
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|- id="t22:34:43"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | thanks max for putting them up
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|- id="t22:35:09"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | stickster has already started work on one of them
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|- id="t22:35:23"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | i should have a decent version of the kernel mode setting stuff tomorrow aftrenoon
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|- id="t22:35:33"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
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| style="color: #854685" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_in_Fedora_11
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|| [[#t22:35:33|22:35]]
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|- id="t22:35:34"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | i was hoping to have it to day but kristian was too busy
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|- id="t22:35:56"
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| colspan="2" | * stickster put his interview on the wiki and hughsie will finish it when he's got time
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|- id="t22:36:41"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay so there are a few that are not picked up yet
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|| [[#t22:36:41|22:36]]
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|- id="t22:36:56"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | volume control
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|| [[#t22:36:56|22:36]]
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|- id="t22:37:00"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | and virt improved console
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|| [[#t22:37:00|22:37]]
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|- id="t22:37:08"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | we should really be on top of these
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|- id="t22:37:11"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
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| style="color: #854685" | themayor: I think what's needed is email to the list to explain to people what exactly we want them to do to pick up a featue.
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|| [[#t22:37:11|22:37]]
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|- id="t22:37:13"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
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| style="color: #854685" | *feature
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|- id="t22:37:19"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | was there any discussion of these on the list between last week and tonight?
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|- id="t22:38:08"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | aside from the brief thing on friday based on what i sent out in the weekend thing no
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|- id="t22:38:31"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | you want me to send out something?
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|| [[#t22:38:31|22:38]]
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|- id="t22:38:50"
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| colspan="2" | * spevack thought we talked about that on thursday
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|| [[#t22:38:50|22:38]]
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|- id="t22:38:55"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | so... yeah
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|- id="t22:39:06"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | no we said i was going to work on mine
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|- id="t22:39:13"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | we didnt say send something to the list
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|- id="t22:39:18"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | at least not that i recall
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|| [[#t22:39:18|22:39]]
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|- id="t22:39:21"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | sorry if im mistaken
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|| [[#t22:39:21|22:39]]
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|- id="t22:39:22"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | well, let's get some list discussion
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|| [[#t22:39:22|22:39]]
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|- id="t22:39:45"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | okay ill send that out after the meeting then
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|- id="t22:39:45"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | themayor: i think the idea was to get started on yours, and use that as a template to generate some discussion on the list and hopefully get other people to see "oh, I can do one too!"
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|| [[#t22:39:45|22:39]]
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|- id="t22:39:50"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | kind of like what stickster did
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|- id="t22:40:01"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | yeah i asked kristian for some time
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|| [[#t22:40:01|22:40]]
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|- id="t22:40:01"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
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| style="color: #854685" | I'm not saying my page is perfect, but if you think mine works OK, it's up for using as a template.
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|| [[#t22:40:01|22:40]]
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|- id="t22:40:19"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
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| style="color: #854685" | In fact, if anyone has some ideas for how to improve mine, I would love to do so
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|| [[#t22:40:19|22:40]]
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|- id="t22:40:20"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | its good its a start
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|- id="t22:40:39"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | ok, so we need an email to the list that shows the main f11 in-depth feature page, stickster's example page showing a work in progress that has just started, and asking for volunteers for the others
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|| [[#t22:40:39|22:40]]
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|- id="t22:41:12"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | sure
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|- id="t22:41:33"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | and i will post my page tomorrow right after the readiness meeting
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|- id="t22:41:45"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | Be sure to explain the difference between the talking points and the in-depth pages in the e-mail. It's not obvious right now.
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|| [[#t22:41:45|22:41]]
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|- id="t22:41:51"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | brilliant
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|| [[#t22:41:51|22:41]]
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|- id="t22:42:14"
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | moixs: that is true, as evidenced by the thread last week on the list, i think Rahul started it, and stickster and i chimed in
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|| [[#t22:42:14|22:42]]
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|- id="t22:42:26"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | moixs: absolutely, weve spoke about it before but i will do so again
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|- id="t22:43:19"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
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| style="color: #407a40" | Are we done with the short-term task list?
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|- id="t22:43:30"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | one last quick thing
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| colspan="2" | * herlo suggests we put these pages into a category so we can all pick and choose from them in one central place
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|- id="t22:44:06"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | tomorrow, we are having the beta readiness meeting
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|- id="t22:44:20"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
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| style="color: #818144" | herlo: the in depth features?
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|| [[#t22:44:20|22:44]]
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|- id="t22:44:27"
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! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | yes
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|| [[#t22:44:27|22:44]]
 +
|- id="t22:44:45"
 +
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | themayor: it's simple, a category will help those who want to take one but don't know what's there to  take.
 +
|| [[#t22:44:45|22:44]]
 +
|- id="t22:44:48"
 +
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
 +
| style="color: #854685" | herlo: That's funny, I was thinking the same thing
 +
|| [[#t22:44:48|22:44]]
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|- id="t22:44:48"
 +
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | like me
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|| [[#t22:44:48|22:44]]
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|- id="t22:45:02"
 +
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | :)
 +
|| [[#t22:45:02|22:45]]
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|- id="t22:45:13"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | stickster: are you game for doing that or do you need some help?
 +
|| [[#t22:45:13|22:45]]
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|- id="t22:45:13"
 +
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
 +
| style="color: #854685" | herlo: Maybe I can move that page properly. Let me try.
 +
|| [[#t22:45:13|22:45]]
 +
|- id="t22:45:45"
 +
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | well, it just needs a [Category:F11 In Depth Feature]] (or similar) tag at the bottom
 +
|| [[#t22:45:45|22:45]]
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|- id="t22:45:51"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | yeah
 +
|| [[#t22:45:51|22:45]]
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|- id="t22:45:58"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | and then each page needs one as is created
 +
|| [[#t22:45:58|22:45]]
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|- id="t22:46:08"
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! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | then everyone can go to /wiki/Category:F11_In_Depth_Feature and see the list
 +
|| [[#t22:46:08|22:46]]
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|- id="t22:46:20"
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| colspan="2" | |<-- inode0 has left freenode ("Leaving.")
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|| [[#t22:46:20|22:46]]
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|- id="t22:46:29"
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! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | themayor: yes, and if you make dummy pages with nothing on them, it's easy to find and create content for those who want to help
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|| [[#t22:46:29|22:46]]
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|- id="t22:47:02"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | yup
 +
|| [[#t22:47:02|22:47]]
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|- id="t22:47:47"
 +
| colspan="2" | * herlo missed most of last week's meeting, but wants to help.  Where's the list of features to work through?
 +
|| [[#t22:47:47|22:47]]
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|- id="t22:48:05"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | herlo: whats left is volume control
 +
|| [[#t22:48:05|22:48]]
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|- id="t22:48:10"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | and virt improved console
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|| [[#t22:48:10|22:48]]
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|- id="t22:48:12"
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! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | oh
 +
|| [[#t22:48:12|22:48]]
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|- id="t22:48:16"
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! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | is there a list?
 +
|| [[#t22:48:16|22:48]]
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|- id="t22:48:19"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | yes
 +
|| [[#t22:48:19|22:48]]
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|- id="t22:48:22"
 +
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
 +
| style="color: #4d4d93" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features
 +
|| [[#t22:48:22|22:48]]
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|- id="t22:48:34"
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! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | I can go through and update the pages iwth the category on them really quick
 +
|| [[#t22:48:34|22:48]]
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|- id="t22:48:37"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features
 +
|| [[#t22:48:37|22:48]]
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|- id="t22:48:44"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | thanks spevack
 +
|| [[#t22:48:44|22:48]]
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|- id="t22:48:48"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
 +
| style="color: #854685" | herlo: OK,done
 +
|| [[#t22:48:48|22:48]]
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|- id="t22:49:13"
 +
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
 +
| style="color: #854685" | https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Category:F11_in-depth_features
 +
|| [[#t22:49:13|22:49]]
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|- id="t22:49:22"
 +
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | stickster: sweet!
 +
|| [[#t22:49:22|22:49]]
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|- id="t22:50:02"
 +
| colspan="2" | * herlo also wants to point out that it seems like double effort to create a page with that info and have a category page, since category pages can have content too
 +
|| [[#t22:50:02|22:50]]
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|- id="t22:50:31"
 +
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | I wonder if anyone would be opposed to moving the content from the F11_in-depth_features page to the F11_in-depth_features category page?
 +
|| [[#t22:50:31|22:50]]
 +
|- id="t22:50:41"
 +
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack
 +
| style="color: #4d4d93" | whatever works
 +
|| [[#t22:50:41|22:50]]
 +
|- id="t22:50:54"
 +
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | well, it's already done this time, so I don't want to step on anyone's toes
 +
|| [[#t22:50:54|22:50]]
 +
|- id="t22:50:59"
 +
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
 +
| style="color: #854685" | herlo: Already eon
 +
|| [[#t22:50:59|22:50]]
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|- id="t22:51:01"
 +
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
 +
| style="color: #854685" | *done
 +
|| [[#t22:51:01|22:51]]
 +
|- id="t22:51:09"
 +
| colspan="2" | * herlo double looks
 +
|| [[#t22:51:09|22:51]]
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|- id="t22:51:18"
 +
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | so it is
 +
|| [[#t22:51:18|22:51]]
 +
|- id="t22:51:35"
 +
| colspan="2" | * herlo missed that point before, even though he looked at it
 +
|| [[#t22:51:35|22:51]]
 +
|- id="t22:51:59"
 +
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo
 +
| style="color: #97974f" | okay, ignore me, I'll go and make those pages show up on the category page...
 +
|| [[#t22:51:59|22:51]]
 +
|- id="t22:52:38"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | okay
 +
|| [[#t22:52:38|22:52]]
 +
|- id="t22:52:40"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | so next
 +
|| [[#t22:52:40|22:52]]
 +
|- id="t22:52:45"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | the beta readiness meeting is tomorrow
 +
|| [[#t22:52:45|22:52]]
 +
|- id="t22:53:37"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | does anyone want me to bring up anything
 +
|| [[#t22:53:37|22:53]]
 +
|- id="t22:53:45"
 +
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
 +
| style="color: #407a40" | not really on my side
 +
|| [[#t22:53:45|22:53]]
 +
|- id="t22:54:07"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | this is going to be an opportunity to talk with art and docs also about anything we need to coordinate
 +
|| [[#t22:54:07|22:54]]
 +
|- id="t22:54:17"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | thats really what i hope to get out of it
 +
|| [[#t22:54:17|22:54]]
 +
|- id="t22:54:33"
 +
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
 +
| style="color: #854685" | themayor: Exactly, it's not just "are we ready," but "are we missing anything that we need from some other team, or are they missing something from us"
 +
|| [[#t22:54:33|22:54]]
 +
|- id="t22:54:49"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | yup
 +
|| [[#t22:54:49|22:54]]
 +
|- id="t22:55:33"
 +
| colspan="2" | =-= mizmo is now known as mizmo-out
 +
|| [[#t22:55:33|22:55]]
 +
|- id="t22:56:49"
 +
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
 +
| style="color: #854685" | OK, sounds like that's a big silence == "no"
 +
|| [[#t22:56:49|22:56]]
 +
|- id="t22:57:09"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | yeah
 +
|| [[#t22:57:09|22:57]]
 +
|- id="t22:57:17"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | alright
 +
|| [[#t22:57:17|22:57]]
 +
|- id="t22:57:32"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | so other than that, lets talk about the picture book real quick, although we really got everything in
 +
|| [[#t22:57:32|22:57]]
 +
|- id="t22:57:42"
 +
! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
 +
| style="color: #42427e" | PICTURE!
 +
|| [[#t22:57:42|22:57]]
 +
|- id="t22:57:57"
 +
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
 +
| style="color: #854685" | BOOK!
 +
|| [[#t22:57:57|22:57]]
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|- id="t22:58:00"
 +
! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
 +
| style="color: #42427e" | ,,,
 +
|| [[#t22:58:00|22:58]]
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|- id="t22:58:02"
 +
! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
 +
| style="color: #42427e" | oh ok you got it
 +
|| [[#t22:58:02|22:58]]
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|- id="t22:58:12"
 +
! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller
 +
| style="color: #42427e" | umm i think i talked everything i needed to earlier in the meeting. any questions?
 +
|| [[#t22:58:12|22:58]]
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|- id="t22:59:11"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | we also have things for next week, we should make sure people have their names by them
 +
|| [[#t22:59:11|22:59]]
 +
|- id="t22:59:59"
 +
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
 +
| style="color: #854685" | What's up for next week?
 +
|| [[#t22:59:59|22:59]]
 +
|- id="t23:00:01"
 +
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
 +
| style="color: #407a40" | On the task list you mean? We are pretty much set.
 +
|| [[#t23:00:01|23:00]]
 +
|- id="t23:00:03"
 +
| colspan="2" | * stickster looks at schedule
 +
|| [[#t23:00:03|23:00]]
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|- id="t23:00:04"
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| colspan="2" | |<-- tk009 has left freenode ()
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|| [[#t23:00:04|23:00]]
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|- id="t23:00:37"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
 +
| style="color: #407a40" | On a quick note, I asked people who subscribed to the news dis. network to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications
 +
|| [[#t23:00:37|23:00]]
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|- id="t23:00:53"
 +
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
 +
| style="color: #407a40" | i have to kick the germans, hindis and spanish. I'll do it tomorrow
 +
|| [[#t23:00:53|23:00]]
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|- id="t23:01:11"
 +
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
 +
| style="color: #407a40" | For the other languages, the list is pretty good
 +
|| [[#t23:01:11|23:01]]
 +
|- id="t23:01:15"
 +
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
 +
| style="color: #407a40" | eof
 +
|| [[#t23:01:15|23:01]]
 +
|- id="t23:01:33"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | brief famsco on stuff
 +
|| [[#t23:01:33|23:01]]
 +
|- id="t23:01:39"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | who here goes to the famsco meetings?
 +
|| [[#t23:01:39|23:01]]
 +
|- id="t23:01:55"
 +
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster
 +
| style="color: #854685" | I think spevack is usually at them
 +
|| [[#t23:01:55|23:01]]
 +
|- id="t23:02:21"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | max can you pick that up then?
 +
|| [[#t23:02:21|23:02]]
 +
|- id="t23:03:58"
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | i think he left
 +
|| [[#t23:03:58|23:03]]
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|- id="t23:04:01"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | anyway
 +
|| [[#t23:04:01|23:04]]
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|- id="t23:04:04"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | we are over time already
 +
|| [[#t23:04:04|23:04]]
 +
|- id="t23:04:36"
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs
 +
| style="color: #407a40" | ok, let's call it a day then :)
 +
|| [[#t23:04:36|23:04]]
 +
|- id="t23:05:04"
 +
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor
 +
| style="color: #818144" | lets call it a day, we have stuff to do for next week
 +
|| [[#t23:05:04|23:05]]
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|}
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[[Category:Marketing meetings]]

Revision as of 22:07, 17 March 2009

=-= ianweller has changed the topic to woo marketing meeting 22:01
moixs So, let's switch to here for the marketing meeting :) 22:02
ianweller themayor: hi 22:02
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themayor hey 22:02
themayor were in here now? 22:03
stickster yup 22:03
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themayor okay that works 22:03
themayor thanks stickster for setting it up 22:03
* lcafiero has been here 22:03
mizmo hi 22:03
moixs Can someone else log the meeting too? I usually get disconnected at 23h (in 1h) because my room mate goes to bed and cuts the wifi ;) 22:03
moixs Just in case :) 22:04
ianweller zodbot also keeps logs 22:04
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MostafaDaneshvar hey 22:04
r0xc0rp Hey, I'm logging this too if it helps 22:05
moixs fine ;) 22:05
themayor okay are we all here? 22:06
ianweller (raise your hand if you're not here) 22:06
spevack Max 22:06
themayor roll call please 22:06
moixs Steven Moix 22:06
r0xc0rp Tiago Vieira 22:06
MostafaDaneshvar Mostafa Daneshvar 22:06
themayor okay so i assume thats that 22:07
* stickster . 22:07
themayor let me pull up the schedule 22:08
ianweller and mizmo is here too 22:08
mizmo yo 22:08
themayor https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule 22:08
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themayor im gonna give a brief go about my stuff and then follow up with people on theirs 22:09
themayor the talking points are done 22:09
themayor https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points 22:09
themayor stickster: you looked over these, anyone have any feedback? 22:10
* moixs is looking at them right now 22:10
stickster themayor: Did you fix the points I discussed with you Friday night? 22:11
moixs The separation between different types of users is fine 22:11
themayor stickster: yeah some of them i think, is there anything i missed? 22:11
* ianweller has read them and likes them 22:12
themayor anyone else? 22:13
spevack how much has actually changed since the Alpha version of them? 22:13
themayor or are people reading 22:13
* spevack consults the page history 22:13
themayor spevack: bits and pieces, i also added some stuff that i spoke to sticster about 22:13
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spevack stickster: do you want to follow up with jack post-meeting about any additional comments, so we can lock this page down for beta? 22:15
stickster spevack: Yeah, that sounds fine 22:15
stickster I don't want to block the rest of the agenda 22:15
stickster There's much to do! 22:15
stickster Jack, let's get together later on 22:15
themayor okay 22:15
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themayor okay ian, any updates on the banners and stuff? 22:17
themayor wanna tell everyone whats going on with them 22:17
ianweller for the pbook? 22:17
ianweller or something else 22:17
ianweller i'll assume picture book since that's the only thing i actually own on that page 22:18
themayor yeah 22:18
themayor the banner 22:18
ianweller banner has been imported into fedora-web.git and it's on the fp.o chrome 22:18
ianweller it has about a 1/3 probability of showing up 22:18
stickster ianweller: I saw that change go into git, awesome 22:18
ianweller the other 2/3rds is f10 and f11 alpha. so we'll leave those ;) 22:18
themayor havent seen one yet 22:18
ianweller s/is/are/ 22:18
stickster ianweller: Yeah, *somebody* will want that stuff too, maybe 22:19
themayor oooh i just saw 22:19
ianweller themayor: :D 22:19
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ianweller and picture book submissinos are now open. 22:19
ianweller i haven't checked the pictures category yet 22:19
themayor the three folders or envelope or whatever 22:19
ianweller but mdomsch has asked us to take a look at a couple of photos 22:19
ianweller they're on the talk page of that submitting page 22:19
themayor awesome 22:20
themayor so we are well on our way 22:20
ianweller yup 22:20
themayor please who ever hasnt blogged about it yet, please do so 22:20
ianweller yeah 22:20
ianweller flood the planet 22:20
themayor i will do one tonight 22:21
ianweller i'll also be lurking the upload log 22:21
ianweller see if any get in without adding the right categories 22:21
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themayor awesome 22:22
themayor let jus know 22:22
ianweller now we await as many pictures as possible 22:22
ianweller brno will bring quite a few in 22:23
ianweller also, we changed the submission policy slightly 22:23
themayor okay so we have on the schedule update the user testimonials 22:23
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* ianweller will wait until pbook comes up again ;) 22:23
themayor ianweller: ssorry go ahead, its good that it should be in the log 22:23
ianweller oh. ok 22:23
ianweller nicu and i were discussing the submission policy 22:23
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ianweller ther'es now a route for uploading an image if you don't have a release form, and if we would really like to use the photo, we'll ask the photographer to get one 22:24
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moixs (please refresh the schedule page, I made some changes) 22:24
ianweller this would be used for photos taken before the release forms existed 22:24
ianweller so that the photographer wouldn't have to get a form signed unless we were fairly certain that the photo was going in the book. 22:24
ianweller that's all i changed since spevack's changes shortly after the meeting last week 22:25
themayor okay great 22:25
ianweller we could still use mockups 22:25
ianweller :) 22:25
* ianweller hands the floor back to themayor 22:25
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* herlo is here 22:26
themayor okay so one of the tasks is to update the usertestimonials 22:26
spevack more specifically 22:26
spevack to give the page a fresh outlook 22:26
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spevack and either try to make it something current and maintainable 22:26
spevack or to retire it completely and Archive: it 22:27
spevack this came up last week 22:27
spevack but there is no owner 22:27
moixs As I said last week...too much work for too little right now. We are already lagging behind in this cycle and I don't see it as time well invested. 22:27
themayor yeah 22:27
moixs other opinions are welcome, but pick it up then :p 22:27
themayor i was wondering if anyone was interested 22:28
* spevack agrees that it is a lower priority, but wonders why we haven't tried to get someone to pick it up on the mailing list 22:28
themayor but if not we will move on 22:28
spevack an email with a vision for what we want the page to be, asking for volunteers 22:28
moixs I have a suggestion about this 22:28
spevack go ahead 22:28
moixs As I quickly told you last week, we are going to work on Fedora's positioning and marketing at school (confirmed today) 22:29
* spevack remembers 22:29
moixs I can pick up this task there, and discuss what the purpose of this page should be 22:29
moixs come up with ideas etc 22:30
moixs This can already help to clarify what it should be, before searching an owner 22:30
themayor moixs: do you want to do that one the list and see if anyone wants to help you with it 22:30
moixs themayor: at the moment, I'd like to keep it silent, for the next 3 weeks or so. 22:31
themayor okay so shall we move it down on the schedule 22:32
moixs themayor: but I can temporary take ownership of it 22:32
themayor okay so i am moving it into the next step 22:32
themayor err, nect phase 22:32
themayor and putting your name on it 22:32
moixs done 22:32
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themayor okay great 22:32
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moixs themayor: I added a last point to the beta phase 22:33
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themayor okay great 22:33
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themayor next topic 22:33
themayor the in depth feature focus 22:33
* spevack perks up 22:34
spevack https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features 22:34
themayor yes 22:34
spevack sorry to interrupt, carry on :) 22:34
themayor thanks max for putting them up 22:34
themayor stickster has already started work on one of them 22:35
themayor i should have a decent version of the kernel mode setting stuff tomorrow aftrenoon 22:35
stickster https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_in_Fedora_11 22:35
themayor i was hoping to have it to day but kristian was too busy 22:35
* stickster put his interview on the wiki and hughsie will finish it when he's got time 22:35
themayor okay so there are a few that are not picked up yet 22:36
themayor volume control 22:36
themayor and virt improved console 22:37
themayor we should really be on top of these 22:37
stickster themayor: I think what's needed is email to the list to explain to people what exactly we want them to do to pick up a featue. 22:37
stickster *feature 22:37
spevack was there any discussion of these on the list between last week and tonight? 22:37
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themayor aside from the brief thing on friday based on what i sent out in the weekend thing no 22:38
themayor you want me to send out something? 22:38
* spevack thought we talked about that on thursday 22:38
spevack so... yeah 22:38
themayor no we said i was going to work on mine 22:39
themayor we didnt say send something to the list 22:39
themayor at least not that i recall 22:39
themayor sorry if im mistaken 22:39
spevack well, let's get some list discussion 22:39
themayor okay ill send that out after the meeting then 22:39
spevack themayor: i think the idea was to get started on yours, and use that as a template to generate some discussion on the list and hopefully get other people to see "oh, I can do one too!" 22:39
spevack kind of like what stickster did 22:39
themayor yeah i asked kristian for some time 22:40
stickster I'm not saying my page is perfect, but if you think mine works OK, it's up for using as a template. 22:40
stickster In fact, if anyone has some ideas for how to improve mine, I would love to do so 22:40
themayor its good its a start 22:40
spevack ok, so we need an email to the list that shows the main f11 in-depth feature page, stickster's example page showing a work in progress that has just started, and asking for volunteers for the others 22:40
themayor sure 22:41
themayor and i will post my page tomorrow right after the readiness meeting 22:41
moixs Be sure to explain the difference between the talking points and the in-depth pages in the e-mail. It's not obvious right now. 22:41
spevack brilliant 22:41
spevack moixs: that is true, as evidenced by the thread last week on the list, i think Rahul started it, and stickster and i chimed in 22:42
themayor moixs: absolutely, weve spoke about it before but i will do so again 22:42
moixs Are we done with the short-term task list? 22:43
themayor one last quick thing 22:43
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* herlo suggests we put these pages into a category so we can all pick and choose from them in one central place 22:44
themayor tomorrow, we are having the beta readiness meeting 22:44
themayor herlo: the in depth features? 22:44
herlo yes 22:44
herlo themayor: it's simple, a category will help those who want to take one but don't know what's there to take. 22:44
stickster herlo: That's funny, I was thinking the same thing 22:44
herlo like me 22:44
herlo :) 22:45
themayor stickster: are you game for doing that or do you need some help? 22:45
stickster herlo: Maybe I can move that page properly. Let me try. 22:45
herlo well, it just needs a [Category:F11 In Depth Feature]] (or similar) tag at the bottom 22:45
themayor yeah 22:45
themayor and then each page needs one as is created 22:45
herlo then everyone can go to /wiki/Category:F11_In_Depth_Feature and see the list 22:46
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herlo themayor: yes, and if you make dummy pages with nothing on them, it's easy to find and create content for those who want to help 22:46
themayor yup 22:47
* herlo missed most of last week's meeting, but wants to help. Where's the list of features to work through? 22:47
themayor herlo: whats left is volume control 22:48
themayor and virt improved console 22:48
herlo oh 22:48
herlo is there a list? 22:48
themayor yes 22:48
spevack https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features 22:48
herlo I can go through and update the pages iwth the category on them really quick 22:48
themayor https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features 22:48
themayor thanks spevack 22:48
stickster herlo: OK,done 22:48
stickster https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Category:F11_in-depth_features 22:49
herlo stickster: sweet! 22:49
* herlo also wants to point out that it seems like double effort to create a page with that info and have a category page, since category pages can have content too 22:50
herlo I wonder if anyone would be opposed to moving the content from the F11_in-depth_features page to the F11_in-depth_features category page? 22:50
spevack whatever works 22:50
herlo well, it's already done this time, so I don't want to step on anyone's toes 22:50
stickster herlo: Already eon 22:50
stickster *done 22:51
* herlo double looks 22:51
herlo so it is 22:51
* herlo missed that point before, even though he looked at it 22:51
herlo okay, ignore me, I'll go and make those pages show up on the category page... 22:51
themayor okay 22:52
themayor so next 22:52
themayor the beta readiness meeting is tomorrow 22:52
themayor does anyone want me to bring up anything 22:53
moixs not really on my side 22:53
themayor this is going to be an opportunity to talk with art and docs also about anything we need to coordinate 22:54
themayor thats really what i hope to get out of it 22:54
stickster themayor: Exactly, it's not just "are we ready," but "are we missing anything that we need from some other team, or are they missing something from us" 22:54
themayor yup 22:54
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stickster OK, sounds like that's a big silence == "no" 22:56
themayor yeah 22:57
themayor alright 22:57
themayor so other than that, lets talk about the picture book real quick, although we really got everything in 22:57
ianweller PICTURE! 22:57
stickster BOOK! 22:57
ianweller ,,, 22:58
ianweller oh ok you got it 22:58
ianweller umm i think i talked everything i needed to earlier in the meeting. any questions? 22:58
themayor we also have things for next week, we should make sure people have their names by them 22:59
stickster What's up for next week? 22:59
moixs On the task list you mean? We are pretty much set. 23:00
* stickster looks at schedule 23:00
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moixs On a quick note, I asked people who subscribed to the news dis. network to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications 23:00
moixs i have to kick the germans, hindis and spanish. I'll do it tomorrow 23:00
moixs For the other languages, the list is pretty good 23:01
moixs eof 23:01
themayor brief famsco on stuff 23:01
themayor who here goes to the famsco meetings? 23:01
stickster I think spevack is usually at them 23:01
themayor max can you pick that up then? 23:02
themayor i think he left 23:03
themayor anyway 23:04
themayor we are over time already 23:04
moixs ok, let's call it a day then :) 23:04
themayor lets call it a day, we have stuff to do for next week 23:05