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== Meetings ==
== Meetings ==


The plan is to set up bi-weekly IRC meetings starting in January 2023. Time to be decided when we have a list of interested people.
Flatpak SIG meetings are held every second Monday at 15.00 UTC (or 14.00 UTC during daylight savings time, check our calendar to see a precise time) in {{fpchat|#fedora-meeting}} IRC channel / [https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org #meeting:fedoraproject.org] Matrix room. See the [https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/SIGs/#m10431 Fedora Calendar].
 
The agenda is tracked in: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/fedora-flatpaks-sig


== Join the Flatpak SIG ==
== Join the Flatpak SIG ==
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If you are interested in joining the SIG, please add your name down below and come to the first IRC meeting. We'll discuss how to set up the SIG and first steps.
If you are interested in joining the SIG, please add your name down below and come to the first IRC meeting. We'll discuss how to set up the SIG and first steps.


* [[User:leamas|Alec Leamas]]
* [[User:aday|Allan Day]]
* [[User:Rishi|Debarshi Ray]]
* [[User:feborges|Felipe Borges]]
* [[User:jgrulich | Jan Grulich ]]
* [[User:Kalev|Kalev Lember]]
* [[User:Kalev|Kalev Lember]]
* [[User:renich| Renich Bon Ćirić]]
* [[User:Smooge|Stephen Smoogen]]
* [[User:Smooge|Stephen Smoogen]]
* [[User:Siosm| Timothée Ravier]]
* [[User:Siosm| Timothée Ravier]]
* [[User:tpopela|Tomas Popela]]
* [[User:yselkowitz|Yaakov Selkowitz]]
* [[User:xberry|Jan Beran]]
* [[User:Hyperreal|Jeffrey Serio]]
== Communication ==


== Mailing List ==
=== Matrix Room ===


Do we need one?
[https://matrix.to/#/#flatpaks:fedoraproject.org #flatpaks:fedoraproject.org]


== IRC Channel ==
=== IRC Channel ===


{{fpchat|#fedora-flatpaks}} on libera.chat
{{fpchat|#fedora-flatpaks}} on libera.chat


[[Category:SIGs]]
=== Issue tracking ===
[[Category:Fedora special-interest groups]]
 
[https://gitlab.com/fedora/sigs/flatpak/fedora-flatpaks/-/issues Fedora Flatpaks issues]


== Documentation ==
== Documentation ==


Collection of links to documentation, sources or reference related to how Flatpaks are made in Fedora:
=== For users and testers ===
 
* [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Flatpak/Testing How to test Fedora Flatpaks]
 
=== Developer and packaging docs ===


* Flatpak docs: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/flatpak/
* [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/flatpak/ Fedora Flatpak packaging]
* Workstation/Flatpaks: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Flatpaks
* [https://osbs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/users.html#flatpak OpenShift Build Service - Flatpak]
* flatpaks / flatpak-runtime: https://src.fedoraproject.org/flatpaks/flatpak-runtime
* [https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/cant-install-fedmod-for-flatpak-packaging/39947 Discussion thread: can’t install fedmod]
* flatpaks / flatpak-sdk: https://src.fedoraproject.org/flatpaks/flatpak-sdk
* [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flatpak:Easy List of apps it would be easy to package as Flatpaks]
* Easy Flatpaks to Create: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flatpak:Easy
 
* Can’t install fedmod (for flatpak packaging): https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/cant-install-fedmod-for-flatpak-packaging/39947
=== Project repositories ===
* Builds of module-build-service and flatpak-module-tools from otaylor's devel branches with enhancements for local builds: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/otaylor/flatpak-module-tools-experimental/
 
* container / flatpak-build-base: https://src.fedoraproject.org/container/flatpak-build-base
* [https://src.fedoraproject.org/projects/flatpaks/%2A All applications packaged as Flatpak]
* OSBS documentation: https://osbs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/users.html#flatpak
 
* org.fedoraproject.Platform ([https://src.fedoraproject.org/flatpaks/flatpak-runtime Runtime repo], [https://src.fedoraproject.org/flatpaks/flatpak-sdk SDK repo]):
** "Extended" GNOME Platform, similar to `org.gnome.Platform/x86_64/43` on Flathub
** Installed by default on Silverblue
 
* org.fedoraproject.KDE5Platform ([https://src.fedoraproject.org/flatpaks/flatpak-kde5-runtime Runtime repo], [https://src.fedoraproject.org/flatpaks/flatpak-kde5-sdk SDK repo]):
** Qt5 platform
** Similar to `org.kde.Platform/x86_64/5.15-22.08` on Flathub
** Will be installed by default on Kinoite until KDE Plasma 6
 
* org.fedoraproject.KDE6Platform ([https://src.fedoraproject.org/flatpaks/flatpak-kde6-runtime Runtime repo], [https://src.fedoraproject.org/flatpaks/flatpak-kde6-sdk SDK repo]):
** Qt6 platform
** Similar to `org.kde.Platform/x86_64/6.4` on Flathub
** Will be installed by default on Kinoite starting with KDE Plasma 6
 
=== Tools ===
 
* [https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/otaylor/flatpak-module-tools-experimental/ flatpak-module-tools Copr]
* [https://src.fedoraproject.org/container/flatpak-build-base flatpak-build-base repo]
 
== Fedora Flatpak and SIG FAQ ==
 
=== Why do we need Fedora Flatpaks? ===
 
We need Flatpaks built and released by the Fedora project to be able to pre-install them on Fedora editions and variants such as Fedora Silverblue, Fedora Kinoite, etc.
 
=== Why not "just" use Flathub? ===
 
The following points make it legally and practically not possible to use Flathub to pre-install Flatpaks in Fedora:
 
* Flathub includes a mix of FOSS and proprietary software by default.
* Fedora Legal has not approved installing Flatpaks from Flathub by default in Fedora.
* Flatpaks packaged on Flathub do not necessarily follow the Fedora release process, which includes Beta and release freezes.
 
=== What are the advantages of Fedora Flatpaks? ===
 
Flatpaks made by Fedora have the following advantages:
 
* They are made from the same sources as the RPMs, and thus must meet the same constraints regarding FOSS licences as the rest of the packages in Fedora.
* They are tested and released in sync with Fedora releases and updates can be tested in Bodhi.
* They are built on Fedora infrastructure.
 
=== How are Fedora Flatpak made? ===
 
In Fedora, Flatpaks are made from the same sources as RPMs, but are built with a different `PREFIX` in order to install the application and its dependencies in `/app` (instead of `/usr` for RPMs).
 
The builds happen in the Fedora infrastructure using OSBS. See documentation in [https://osbs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/users.html#flatpak OpenShift Build Service - Flatpak].
 
[[Category:SIGs]]
[[Category:Fedora special-interest groups]]

Latest revision as of 22:00, 30 January 2024

Flatpak Logo 200px.png Flatpak SIG
Fedora Flatpak Packaging Special Interest Group

Flatpak SIG

A SIG for people who are interested in improving the state of Flatpak packaging in Fedora.

This includes maintaining existing Fedora Flatpaks, maintaining the Fedora Flatpak runtime, improving the documentation around Fedora Flatpaks and improving the packager experience when working with Fedora Flatpaks.

Meetings

Flatpak SIG meetings are held every second Monday at 15.00 UTC (or 14.00 UTC during daylight savings time, check our calendar to see a precise time) in #fedora-meeting[?] IRC channel / #meeting:fedoraproject.org Matrix room. See the Fedora Calendar.

The agenda is tracked in: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/fedora-flatpaks-sig

Join the Flatpak SIG

If you are interested in joining the SIG, please add your name down below and come to the first IRC meeting. We'll discuss how to set up the SIG and first steps.

Communication

Matrix Room

#flatpaks:fedoraproject.org

IRC Channel

#fedora-flatpaks[?] on libera.chat

Issue tracking

Fedora Flatpaks issues

Documentation

For users and testers

Developer and packaging docs

Project repositories

  • org.fedoraproject.Platform (Runtime repo, SDK repo):
    • "Extended" GNOME Platform, similar to org.gnome.Platform/x86_64/43 on Flathub
    • Installed by default on Silverblue
  • org.fedoraproject.KDE5Platform (Runtime repo, SDK repo):
    • Qt5 platform
    • Similar to org.kde.Platform/x86_64/5.15-22.08 on Flathub
    • Will be installed by default on Kinoite until KDE Plasma 6
  • org.fedoraproject.KDE6Platform (Runtime repo, SDK repo):
    • Qt6 platform
    • Similar to org.kde.Platform/x86_64/6.4 on Flathub
    • Will be installed by default on Kinoite starting with KDE Plasma 6

Tools

Fedora Flatpak and SIG FAQ

Why do we need Fedora Flatpaks?

We need Flatpaks built and released by the Fedora project to be able to pre-install them on Fedora editions and variants such as Fedora Silverblue, Fedora Kinoite, etc.

Why not "just" use Flathub?

The following points make it legally and practically not possible to use Flathub to pre-install Flatpaks in Fedora:

  • Flathub includes a mix of FOSS and proprietary software by default.
  • Fedora Legal has not approved installing Flatpaks from Flathub by default in Fedora.
  • Flatpaks packaged on Flathub do not necessarily follow the Fedora release process, which includes Beta and release freezes.

What are the advantages of Fedora Flatpaks?

Flatpaks made by Fedora have the following advantages:

  • They are made from the same sources as the RPMs, and thus must meet the same constraints regarding FOSS licences as the rest of the packages in Fedora.
  • They are tested and released in sync with Fedora releases and updates can be tested in Bodhi.
  • They are built on Fedora infrastructure.

How are Fedora Flatpak made?

In Fedora, Flatpaks are made from the same sources as RPMs, but are built with a different PREFIX in order to install the application and its dependencies in /app (instead of /usr for RPMs).

The builds happen in the Fedora infrastructure using OSBS. See documentation in OpenShift Build Service - Flatpak.

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