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== Design ==


== Artwork ==
In this section, we cover the Fedora Design Team<ref>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork</ref>.


In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project.
Contributing Writer: [[User:nicubunu|Nicu Buculei]]


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork
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Contributing Writer: [[NicuBuculei|Nicu Buculei]]
=== FUDCon T-shirt ===


=== No Echo forFedora 10 CD/DVD ===
[[User:emichan|Emily Dirsh]] proposed<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-December/003702.html</ref> a T-shirt design for the Tempe FUDCon "It's inspired by the art of the Hohokam who once lived in the area" and after an initial warm receive<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-December/003703.html</ref> from [[User:duffy|Máirín Duffy]] "Wow that is **gorgeous**, I love it! I would love a shirt with that design in it!" she followed<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-December/003705.html</ref> with a couple of variations "Ooh, I love the idea of a navy shirt! Yeah, the advantage to a single-color design is it's very easy to adjust the color." [[User:schendje|Jef van Schendel]] also proposed<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-December/003704.html</ref> a few remixes "Here's a few quick and dirty stabs at a dark shirt version".


[[MartinSourada|Martin Sourada]] asked[1] in both @fedora-art and @fedora-desktop about a decision about the use of the Echo icon theme, which "is
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the default icon theme in F10 since Beta (for testing purposes and exposition to wider audience)" in the upcoming Fedora 10 "What I'd like
to ask you now is the preferred way to decide upon it. Should we hold a irc meeting, do a mail vote, set up a vote in the fedora voting system,
other way?"


[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-October/msg00108.html
=== Design Team Blog ===


In a harsh reply[2], [[DavidZeuthen|David Zeuthen]], from the Red Hat Desktop Team, attacked the icon set "the fact that the Fedora leadership allows this art charade to go on and on and on for eons is complete and utter FAIL" and expressed his strong opposition to a vote "can we please get away from this voting business? It's a disease.
[[User:duffy|Máirín Duffy]] announced<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-December/003716.html</ref> a new communication channel for the team "Thanks to Sijis we now have a team blog!! (Yay!!)" and she invited authors to join "Some members of the design team we couldn't add to the blog because their accounts weren't in the Fedora blogs system. If you'd like to be added, please log in to Fedora blogs to create your account, and let me know you've done it so I can request your account be added."


Consider what happened if we started voting on what patches should go in tarballs? Or what the dialogs in your desktop looked like? Or what
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options to use by default. Or what IO scheduler to use in the kernel.
 
IMNSHO, voting is making Fedora turn into something mediocre that I, for one, really don't want to work on, much less rant about. Heck, I'd be
running Debian if I wanted something like this" and his opposition of having a personalized default icon theme in Fedora at all "It's definitely not about stupid zero-sum games with misunderstood 'value adds' that may have questionable value in the first place."
 
[2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-October/msg00072.html
 
Maritn pointed out[3] that Echo is basically an upstream project "Technically the development of Echo Icon Theme is an Upstream job,
though done by fedora artists and aiming to be default on Fedora and I'd say we are now as open with our development as gnome's default or kde's
default icon themes are" and explained his original question as not  a simple call to vote "voting is the last option when there is no better way on
deciding things". He also tried to not vilify voting "there's nothing wrong with voting system, if used with care. Fedora Art
isn't about competition but about collaboration. We'd like Fedora to have distinctive look from other distros and we seem to have enough
people to do so, for some people it indeed feels like competition and motivates them to work harder - and that's a good thing - however when
you accept is as a competition, you're disappointed  when you are not the winner - and it's easier to accept 'defeat' when it's decided by
community that by one (wo)man."
 
[3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-October/msg00073.html
 
[[JesseKeating|Jesse Keating]] returned to the question about the purpose of an original icon set "why is looking different, at the icon level, a good thing?  Does it not just confuse the greater community?". Martin pointed[5] that the situation is not more confusing that the current situation "Well, gnome and kde already look different on that level. Does that confuse greater community?" and he continued arguing for a personalized theme "Does it bring anything to Fedora user? Different, more lively, more 3D-like art. Perhaps wider coverage of Fedora specific stuff (but that does not need to be limited to Echo). Is that a good thing? Seriously, who is to decide that? Definitely not me. I believe Art and Desktop Teams (and various other desktop SIGs when Echo gets selected for other DE's than gnome) together have the right to do so."
 
[4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-October/msg00078.html
 
[5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-October/msg00082.html
 
[[BillNottingham|Bill Nottingham]] calmed the spirits[6] "there's no need to toss around 'grow up' and 'stupid'; we're all adults
(or close enough) here, and that's unlikely to bring people around to your point of view" and asked two crucial questions "So, why are we, as a project, interested in working on a large set of never-to-be-upstreamed changes when there is an existing upstream?" and "Why is Nodoka 'ok', and Echo not, in people's opinion?"
 
 
[6] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-October/msg00097.html
 
[[WillWoods|Will Woods]] offered[7] two quick replies "First, Nodoka doesn't drastically change UI elements from their upstream defaults, or from other OSes" and "Echo, on the other hand, significantly changes the look of basic UI elements". He also added a good deal of criticism for the Echo icon set, using input from "his user-interface-designer wife to help work on Echo", pointing to a significant number of flaws.
 
[7] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-October/msg00100.html

Latest revision as of 09:43, 8 December 2010

Design

In this section, we cover the Fedora Design Team[1].

Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei

  1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork

FUDCon T-shirt

Emily Dirsh proposed[1] a T-shirt design for the Tempe FUDCon "It's inspired by the art of the Hohokam who once lived in the area" and after an initial warm receive[2] from Máirín Duffy "Wow that is **gorgeous**, I love it! I would love a shirt with that design in it!" she followed[3] with a couple of variations "Ooh, I love the idea of a navy shirt! Yeah, the advantage to a single-color design is it's very easy to adjust the color." Jef van Schendel also proposed[4] a few remixes "Here's a few quick and dirty stabs at a dark shirt version".

  1. ↑ http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-December/003702.html
  2. ↑ http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-December/003703.html
  3. ↑ http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-December/003705.html
  4. ↑ http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-December/003704.html

Design Team Blog

Máirín Duffy announced[1] a new communication channel for the team "Thanks to Sijis we now have a team blog!! (Yay!!)" and she invited authors to join "Some members of the design team we couldn't add to the blog because their accounts weren't in the Fedora blogs system. If you'd like to be added, please log in to Fedora blogs to create your account, and let me know you've done it so I can request your account be added."

  1. ↑ http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-December/003716.html
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