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= Split Gettext Package =
= Gettext Runtime Subpackage =
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Extracting the heavier part "tools" from the gettext (main) package into a separate sub-package.
Subpackage gettext's runtime programs in a small runtime subpackage, reducing the default install footprint.


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* Targeted release: [[Releases/37 | Fedora Linux 37 ]]  
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* [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/CRMFB7JBI3HJOANYZFVL3UVW55RCZ64H/ devel thread]
* [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/D24H2E6WW4BB6KYRMDO5HCPZLEUTFWD6/ devel thread]
* FESCo issue:  
* FESCo issue: [https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2818 #2818]
* Tracker bug:  
* Tracker bug: [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2103239 #2103239]
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* Release notes tracker: [https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issue/852 #852]


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Gettext is one of the core packages. It's install ''uncompressed'' size is about ~'''6.1''' MB. A large number of packages directly or indirectly depend on it. Extracting "tools" from gettext ''main'' package into a separate sub-package would reduce the footprint. Hence a saving of ~'''4.7''' MB on most normal installations.
Gettext is one of the core packages. Its installed on-disk size is about ~6.1 MB. Extracting runtime utilities from main gettext package into a separate sub-package will reduce the default system footprint by about ~4.7 MB on most normal installations.
 
''Note further that envsubst has also been split out into the gettext-envsubst subpackage allowing it to be installed independently.''


After split this should look like:
After the split this should look like:


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gettext package
gettext-runtime subpackage
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compressed size: 172 kB
compressed size: 172 kB
uncompressed size: 749.6 kB
uncompressed size: 749.6 kB


gettext-tools subpackage
gettext package
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compressed size: 1.0 MB
compressed size: 1.0 MB
uncompressed size: 4.7 MB
uncompressed size: 4.7 MB


As gettext depends on gettext-libs:
As gettext-runtime depends on gettext-libs:


gettext-libs subpackage
gettext-libs subpackage
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compressed size: 322K
compressed size: 322K
uncompressed size: 933.7 kB
uncompressed size: 933.7 kB
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Grouping of binaries:
Grouping of binaries:
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gettext:  
gettext-runtime:
envsubst gettext gettext.sh ngettext
envsubst gettext gettext.sh ngettext


gettext-tools:  
gettext:
msgattrib msgcat msgcmp msgcomm msgconv msgen msgexec msgfilter msgfmt msggrep msginit msgmerge msgunfmt msguniq recode-sr-latin xgettext
msgattrib msgcat msgcmp msgcomm msgconv msgen msgexec msgfilter msgfmt msggrep msginit msgmerge msgunfmt msguniq recode-sr-latin xgettext
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* initial [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/CRMFB7JBI3HJOANYZFVL3UVW55RCZ64H/ devel thread] floating subpackaging idea (April 2022)


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Space saving of about ~'''4.7''' MB on most of the normal installations.
Space saving of about ~4.7 MB for typical installations.


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** Add <code>Provides: gettext-runtime</code> to <code>gettext</code> [done in rawhide]
** Update the gettext package in rawhide to have the new gettext-runtime subpackage, pulled in by the gettext base package ([https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gettext/pull-request/15 PR])
** File bugs against packages that could be changed to only need gettext-runtime at runtime.
** Subpackage envsubst as a mini-subpackage of gettext-runtime ([https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2068556 bz])


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** Packagers who owns packages implicitly expects '''gettext-tools''' a new sub package. May need to update the dependency from "gettext" to "gettext-tools".
** Packagers who own packages that have a direct runtime dependency on gettext (roughly 30 packages) and that actually only need gettext-runtime can change their <code>Requires: gettext</code> to the new <code>gettext-runtime</code> subpackage in Rawhide.


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Both "gettext" and "gettext-tools" obsoletes earlier version of gettext. <br/>So, on '''update''' both packages will get installed on systems having gettext. (''preinstalled'')
Impact should be low: on upgrade both packages will get installed on systems that had gettext installed.


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* Test upgrades from F36 to F37
* Test minimal/default installs continue to work as expected
* Packages that depend on gettext continue to rebuild, install, and function normally


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  - Green has been scientifically proven to be the most relaxing color. The move to a default background color of green with green text will result in Fedora users being the most relaxed users of any operating system.
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User will see lighter gettext package and a new gettext-tools package. <br/>Many of the desktop/web apps/libraries use gettext-tools. They would need to update their dependency to "gettext-tools" now.
User will see a new lighter gettext-runtime package and a gettext package. <br/>This subpackage separation also corresponds to the recommended packaging by upstream and Debian's gettext-base and gettext packages.


== Dependencies ==
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Packages which explicitly has a dependency to gettext are basically need to check for binary they are dependent on. And if that belongs to gettext-tool, they need to update their dependency to "gettext-tools" from gettext.
Packages which explicitly have a dependency on gettext need to check if they only need programs provided by gettext-runtime, and if so they can update their dependency to <code>gettext-runtime</code> from <code>gettext</code>.


Furthermore, gettext-tools has a dependency to gettext.
Only about 33 Fedora packages currently require gettext (whereas almost 1200 packages have a buildtime dependency):
 
NsCDE backup-manager blivet-gui byobu debootstrap deepin-gettext-tools ecryptfs-utils fontconfig gambas3 gnome-books gnome-common grub2 ibus ibus-chewing kf5-ki18n libpst libvirt lokalize mate-common osmo photocollage playonlinux po-debconf po4a poedit redhat-lsb rpminspect sensible-utils sugar-toolkit-gtk3 translate-toolkit vdr vim-syntastic yast2-devtools


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gettext-runtime and gettext-envsubst subpackages have been added to gettext to separate out the programs needed at runtime, reducing the default install footprint.

Latest revision as of 08:55, 7 September 2022


Gettext Runtime Subpackage

Summary

Subpackage gettext's runtime programs in a small runtime subpackage, reducing the default install footprint.

Owner

Current status

Detailed Description

Gettext is one of the core packages. Its installed on-disk size is about ~6.1 MB. Extracting runtime utilities from main gettext package into a separate sub-package will reduce the default system footprint by about ~4.7 MB on most normal installations.

Note further that envsubst has also been split out into the gettext-envsubst subpackage allowing it to be installed independently.

After the split this should look like:

gettext-runtime subpackage
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compressed size: 172 kB
uncompressed size: 749.6 kB

gettext package
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compressed size: 1.0 MB
uncompressed size: 4.7 MB

As gettext-runtime depends on gettext-libs:

gettext-libs subpackage
-----------------------
compressed size: 322K
uncompressed size: 933.7 kB

Grouping of binaries:

gettext-runtime:
envsubst gettext gettext.sh ngettext

gettext:
msgattrib msgcat msgcmp msgcomm msgconv msgen msgexec msgfilter msgfmt msggrep msginit msgmerge msgunfmt msguniq recode-sr-latin xgettext

Feedback

  • initial devel thread floating subpackaging idea (April 2022)

Benefit to Fedora

Space saving of about ~4.7 MB for typical installations.

Scope

  • Proposal owners:
    • Add Provides: gettext-runtime to gettext [done in rawhide]
    • Update the gettext package in rawhide to have the new gettext-runtime subpackage, pulled in by the gettext base package (PR)
    • File bugs against packages that could be changed to only need gettext-runtime at runtime.
    • Subpackage envsubst as a mini-subpackage of gettext-runtime (bz)
  • Other developers:
    • Packagers who own packages that have a direct runtime dependency on gettext (roughly 30 packages) and that actually only need gettext-runtime can change their Requires: gettext to the new gettext-runtime subpackage in Rawhide.
  • Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change)
  • Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)
  • Alignment with Objectives:

Upgrade/compatibility impact

Impact should be low: on upgrade both packages will get installed on systems that had gettext installed.


How To Test

  • Test upgrades from F36 to F37
  • Test minimal/default installs continue to work as expected
  • Packages that depend on gettext continue to rebuild, install, and function normally


User Experience

User will see a new lighter gettext-runtime package and a gettext package.
This subpackage separation also corresponds to the recommended packaging by upstream and Debian's gettext-base and gettext packages.

Dependencies

Packages which explicitly have a dependency on gettext need to check if they only need programs provided by gettext-runtime, and if so they can update their dependency to gettext-runtime from gettext.

Only about 33 Fedora packages currently require gettext (whereas almost 1200 packages have a buildtime dependency):

NsCDE backup-manager blivet-gui byobu debootstrap deepin-gettext-tools ecryptfs-utils fontconfig gambas3 gnome-books gnome-common grub2 ibus ibus-chewing kf5-ki18n libpst libvirt lokalize mate-common osmo photocollage playonlinux po-debconf po4a poedit redhat-lsb rpminspect sensible-utils sugar-toolkit-gtk3 translate-toolkit vdr vim-syntastic yast2-devtools

Contingency Plan

  • Contingency mechanism: (What to do? Who will do it?) Package owners to revert relevant packages.
  • Contingency deadline: Beta freeze
  • Blocks release? No

Documentation

https://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=gettext.git;a=blob;f=PACKAGING


Release Notes

gettext-runtime and gettext-envsubst subpackages have been added to gettext to separate out the programs needed at runtime, reducing the default install footprint.