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*** Tasks for the Spins SIG attached to each milestone ** Renaming the incomplete-spins category?

== Discussion of Custom Spins == ...anged the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Release Engineering - Making releases a snap</td><td>13:11</td></tr>

...ground: #407a40"> f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">previous releases we just pinged maintainers- for name suggestions with link explenation</td> ...style="color: #818144">feature freeze is for the stuff that makes it onto spins?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:20" class="time">13:20</a></td></tr>

* Targeted release: [[Releases/13| Fedora 13]] ...will share upload credentials with Fedora kernel developers (Oxf13, 21:08:39)

...> notting</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">jeremy: technically, spins aren't on the mirrors</td><td class="time">13:16</td></tr> .../th><td class="text" style="color: #4b904b">notting: given that all of the spins are live images, jigdo is irrelevant for them, so ... :)</td><td class="tim

* nirik and dgilmore will be proposing a new policy for deciding which spins to ship for F20 * With the new [[Changes]] policy, the F20 'feature list' is [[Releases/20/ChangeSet]]

== Spins == * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Spins/SpinSubmissionProcess

* Targeted release: [[Releases/39 | Fedora Linux 39 ]] ...software we generate be improved? How will the process of creating Fedora releases be improved?

* pub/linux/fedora/releases/releases.list * Discussion about what releases need to be kept around and which ones can be deleted to free up space

|- id="t15:11:39" || [[#t15:11:39|15:11]]

Update the Fedora 39 GNU Toolchain to gcc 13.2, binutils 2.40, glibc 2.38 and gdb 13.2. The set of core GNU Toolchain packages for Fedora 39 are as follows:

|- id="t15:13:39" || [[#t15:13:39|15:13]]

...d class="text" style="color: #818144">notting: well, shooting for thursday releases in general gives us that, but when we slip, we should just slip a week rath ...>i seem to recall those being the same reasons for not doing early torrent releases</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:18" class="time">13:18</a></td></tr>

== Spins == * Release Engineering is expected to produce custom spins for F8

...88"> warren</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">we doing the same "spins" as F7 itself?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:06" class="time">13:06</a ...ass="action" colspan="2">* poelcat we were only using "devel" for all test releases</td><td><a href="#t13:24" class="time">13:24</a></td></tr>

* Targeted release: [[Releases/41 | Fedora 41 ]] ...software we generate be improved? How will the process of creating Fedora releases be improved?

|- id="t15:02:39" || [[#t15:02:39|15:02]]

* Some discussion of whether preupgrade bugs should block media spins: adam to propose changes on the list |- id="t15:05:39"

...release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39/ Fedora Linux 39] ...to manage what font packages should be installed for a Fedora release and spins, such as comps, langpacks, lorax, workstation-ostree-config, and fedora-kic

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...with [https://wiki.debian.org/LTS Debian 10 TLS EOL] (June 2024) -- Fedora 39 (the last one to include Python 3.7) will likely EOL on 2024-11-12. * Targeted release: [[Releases/40 | Fedora Linux 40 ]]

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....so</code> instead of <code>/usr/lib64/python3.9/lib-dynload/array.cpython-39-ppc64le-linux-gnu.so</code>. * Targeted release: [[Releases/34|Fedora 34]]

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* ''viking-ice or adamw to file a trac ticket for the smoke-test-for-spins idea'' - this was [https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/363 done by ad |- id="t15:11:39"

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== Fedora CD Releases == ...44">notting</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">can we put RHEL on spins.fp.o?</td><td class="time">13:11</td></tr>

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Provide all maintained Kubernetes releases in Fedora as multiple, versioned packages. Current practice is a separate K * Targeted release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f41/ Fedora Linux 41]

...https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/ modules] for Fedora Linux 39 and further in the Fedora infrastructure and shipping modular content to us ...release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39/ Fedora Linux 39]

...roject.org/wiki/Category:FeatureAnnounced Category:FeatureAnnounced] and [[Releases/19/FeatureList]] |- id="t16:08:39"

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| style="color: #407a40" | #topic spins/get-fedora redesign | colspan="2" | -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-websites to: spins/get-fedora redesign (Meeting topic: Fedora Websites)

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...release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39/ Fedora Linux 39] ...software we generate be improved? How will the process of creating Fedora releases be improved?

* Targeted release: [[Releases/29 | Fedora 29 ]] Node.js releases a new LTS version each year and will support it for around 18 months, which

** '''F-11 Schedule''' - [[Releases/11/Schedule]] |- id="tMar 18 12:08:39"

* '''16:45 - 18:45''' // Fedora Linux 39 Release Party & 20th Anniversary Celebration ...d new changes, the Fedora community, and more. In addition to Fedora Linux 39, the Fedora community is also celebrating its 20th anniversary in 2023, so

Test Day candidates: [[Releases/12/FeatureList]] === Of test spins and trademarks ===

...method for the beta, we'll see how that goes and may continue doing so for releases.</td><td class="time">13:09</td></tr> ...07a40">f13</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">how to handle those spins has also been rather... vague.</td><td class="time">13:23</td></tr>

...class="text" style="color: #854685">f13: yes, longer freeze for all test2 releases was my suggestion</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:17" class="time">13:17 ...g to do it manually</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:39" class="time">13:39</a></td></tr>

| style="color: #818144" | releases and Everything is left alone for now. |- id="t10:39"

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...d release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39 Fedora Linux 39] Around Fedora 39 Beta owners will file a BZ for any package that does not update the license

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...e which are IN: fast-user-switching, fds, everything, kde, prime, targeted spins, firewire, libata, livecd, nouveau, rpm/yum, wireless, tickless, pungi, fir ...ss="text" style="color: #a25555">poelcat: generally, no.&nbsp;&nbsp;fedora releases are time based, not feature based</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:31" cl

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* Oxf13 (39) |- id="t16:05:39"

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= GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 14.0, binutils 2.41, glibc 2.39, gdb 14.1) = Update the Fedora 40 GNU Toolchain to gcc 14.0, binutils 2.41, glibc 2.39 and gdb 14.1.

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# Finish testing [[Releases/39/ChangeSet| Fedora 39 Changes]] ...FedoraVersion|short|39}}FinalBlocker&hide_resolved=1 {{FedoraVersion|short|39}} Final blocker bugs] as possible

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# Are we rolling live iso' s with dracut (including gnome, kde and XFCE spins)? ...h Fedora users, seems to me that best what we can do to improve quality of releases is to make some smoother rawhide repository, which will contain only packag

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|- id="t16:17:39" || [[#t16:17:39|16:17]]

...eeting/2009-09-08/fedora-meeting.2009-09-08-20.01.log.html, starting at 20:39:27 in the log. As always, any comments are welcome. I really like the way t === Marketing HOWTO: Creating press releases ===

...release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39/ Fedora Linux 39] The proposal is to (starting with Fedora 39), [https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/configuring-IMDS-new

...release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39/ Fedora Linux 39] ...software we generate be improved? How will the process of creating Fedora releases be improved?

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|- id="t15:03:39" || [[#t15:03:39|15:03]]

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...Southern_Gentlem suggested looking at the spins test matrix <ref>http://spins.fedoraunity.org/Members/Southern_Gentleman/Fedora%2012%20%20beta%20TestMatr | style="color: #818144" | lili_, also look at http://spins.fedoraunity.org/Members/Southern_Gentleman/Fedora%2012%20%20beta%20TestMatr

* Targeted release: [[Releases/39 | Fedora Linux 39 ]] ...software we generate be improved? How will the process of creating Fedora releases be improved?

...release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39/ Fedora Linux 39] ...software we generate be improved? How will the process of creating Fedora releases be improved?

* Targeted release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f40/ Fedora Linux 40] ...and disk footprint. The switch to DNF 5 was originally planned for Fedora 39, but it's been postponed to (likely) Fedora 41: https://pagure.io/fesco/iss

...release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39/ Fedora Linux 39] ...software we generate be improved? How will the process of creating Fedora releases be improved?

* Targeted release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f40/ Fedora Linux 40] This means that systems updating from 38 to 39 and relying on sshd.socket for openssh access to the system will end up unr

* Targeted release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f40/ Fedora Linux 40] ...tream default. We have been using DWARF-4 as the default for the last few releases due to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2064052

The current main Python interpreter on Fedora 39 will be modified (Python 3.12) and Python 3.6-3.11 will follow. ...release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39/ Fedora Linux 39]

* Schedule - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule |- id="tMay 13 12:00:39"

...release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39/ Fedora Linux 39] We will be changing our build schedule slightly from previous Fedora releases. We will now plan to ship a release candidate in Fedora build prior to the

| 39 || [[User:ABompard|Aurélien Bompard]] || abompard || {{check}} || {{check} * '''Release stories''': Fedora releases should have a story behind changes in each release.

...r: #4b904b" | there should be plenty given we went to a 0 timeout a couple releases ago |- id="t15:33:39"

* [[Releases/12/Schedule]] |- id="t05:06:39"

...release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39/ Fedora Linux 39] ...software we generate be improved? How will the process of creating Fedora releases be improved?

* See [[:Category:FeatureAnnounced]] and [[Releases/19/FeatureList]] | style="color: #407a40" | #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/19/FeatureList

...release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39/ Fedora Linux 39] ...for the Editions from [https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/ download.fedoraproject.org]. This must at least happen when an upcoming F

|- id="tAug 17 12:07:39" || [[#tAug 17 12:07:39|Aug 17 12:07]]

* Targeted release: [[Releases/36 | Fedora Linux 36 ]] ...ormance improvements on most real-world software, up to 22% on railsbench, 39% on liquid-render.

...release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39/ Fedora Linux 39] ...software we generate be improved? How will the process of creating Fedora releases be improved?

| style="color: #854685" | The non-GNOME spins should not have to include GNOME apps to get basic functionality. | style="color: #4d4d93" | Kevin_Kofler: they break, in rawhide between releases

* Targeted release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f38/ Fedora Linux 38] ...the Completion deadline. We are prepared to postpone this Change to Fedora 39 if FESCo decides so.

...release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f39/ Fedora Linux 39] ...software we generate be improved? How will the process of creating Fedora releases be improved?

* Targeted release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f41/ Fedora Linux 41] ...only thanks to [[Changes/Python_Extension_Flags_Reduction]] (since Fedora 39). Other Python extension modules will remain bulidng as before, e.g. in RPM

* Targeted release: [[Releases/34 | Fedora 34 ]] * `/path/to/__pycache__/basename.cpython-39.pyc` for the non-optimized bytecode

...esents the culmination of several goals that Fedora has spent the last few releases (spanning the course of at least 2 years) working to achieve. I've written ...is to highlight spins - the fact you can now create your own custom Fedora spins or highlight a particular spin."

...SCo.&nbsp;&nbsp;OK?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:39" class="time">13:39</a></td></tr> ...lor: #407a40">And they're sitting in the Everything tree, and in the pungi spins</td><td class="time"><a href="#t13:47" class="time">13:47</a></td></tr>

* Targeted release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f40/ Fedora Linux 40] ...software we generate be improved? How will the process of creating Fedora releases be improved?

...expanding demands for Ruby. With this major update from Ruby 3.2 in Fedora 39 to Ruby 3.3 in Fedora 40, Fedora becomes the superior Ruby development plat * Targeted release: [https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f40/ Fedora Linux 40]

* Spins - http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ updated to the latest releases: KDE Software Compilation 4.7 and GNOME

<ref>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/14/FeatureList?wkanF14b</ref> We have nightly composes of alternate spins available here:

Fedora 13 cycle, we will also have talking points to address some of the Spins. They are meant to provide a short, effective answer to the question, "What ...nnounce/2010-February/000572.html</ref> on Tuesday, February 16,2010 at 21:39:10 UTC 2010, "This is to announce that the privilege escalation policy whic

...dvisories brings us a surprisingly short list of security-related software releases for the past three weeks, and our issue wraps up with news from the Planet * Spins - http://spins.fedoraproject.org/

|Luke Macken||39 ...at kanarip dot com||<code>spin-kickstarts</code>||Kickstarts for different Spins of Fedora